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Tayfun is an SRBM. It can probably reach 1000km with a reduced payload which makes it barely/technically MRBM but I don't think we should count it as MRBM. CENK is a MRBM no doubt about it.

BTW the USA is spying on us due to imminent test launches of CENK and Tayfun

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Snip those wings!
 

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Tayfun is an SRBM. It can probably reach 1000km with a reduced payload which makes it barely/technically MRBM but I don't think we should count it as MRBM. CENK is a MRBM no doubt about it.

BTW the USA is spying on us due to imminent test launches of CENK and Tayfun

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The large caliber missiles are our aces in the sleeve, and should remain as such. The tests should be conducted in a clandestine manner.
 

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Tayfun is an SRBM. It can probably reach 1000km with a reduced payload which makes it barely/technically MRBM but I don't think we should count it as MRBM. CENK is a MRBM no doubt about it.

BTW the USA is spying on us due to imminent test launches of CENK and Tayfun

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The US, as always, shows us how much of a great ally they are

We really need to close the Turkish airspace when testing those missiles
 

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Al right guys, let's be real.
These reconnaissance sorites has been regularly going on since the war in Ukraine started.

If USA wants to track Tayfun or CHENK test firing, they can easily do it with their satellites and space based sensors. Or even better, from AEGIS ABM site in Deveselu, Romania.
 

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Al right guys, let's be real.
These reconnaissance sorites has been regularly going on since the war in Ukraine started.

If USA wants to track Tayfun or CHENK test firing, they can easily do it with their satellites and space based sensors. Or even better, from AEGIS ABM site in Deveselu, Romania.
This one is flying close to Turkish borders, not Russian.
Also, having high resolution images of the missile, the rocket engine plume to calculate power and the launch is not the same as having radar coverage, i.e. a dot on a screen over part of the ballistic trajectory.

That said, it is expected that they want to know and have the resources to find out. They probably already know the exact design through our use of american software "reporting" back.
 

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If USA wants to track Tayfun or CHENK test firing, they can easily do it with their satellites and space based sensors. Or even better, from AEGIS ABM site in Deveselu, Romania.
Wouldn't provide the kind of data you get by flying a Hawk near it.
 

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Mr Ikinci: :"UMTAS-GM wing were designed to be larger and openable. It will be a solid-fuel rocket-powered missile. We aim for a range of 25 kilometers in the first stage. Afterwards, we aim to put the 30 and 40km versions on the field"

"UMTAS-GM will have hybrid guidance (IIR+CCD)"

 

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Wait for IDEF2023 25-7-2023. (y)


Defence Turkey: Öncelikle IDEF ‘23 Fuarı yaklaşıyor. Önceki IDEF’te çok güzel bir basın toplantısı yapmıştınız çok faydalı olmuştu. Bu yıl da öyle bir planlamanız var mı?

Murat İKİNCİ:
Sürprizlerimizin bir kısmını da IDEF’e bırakıyoruz IDEF’te açıklayacağız.
 

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UMTAS-GM
  • Man in the loop capability
  • 25-30-40km range variants
  • Hybrid seeker (IIR+CCD)
  • Larger fin design similar to Spike NLOS
  • Attack helicopters, USVs, STAs
 

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Mr Ikinci: :"UMTAS-GM wing were designed to be larger and openable. It will be a solid-fuel rocket-powered missile. We aim for a range of 25 kilometers in the first stage. Afterwards, we aim to put the 30 and 40km versions on the field"

"UMTAS-GM will have hybrid guidance (IIR+CCD)"

This 25 km number, is it air launch range, or land launch?

Spike NLOS' range is 32 km land-launch, 50 km air.
 

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Al right guys, let's be real.
These reconnaissance sorites has been regularly going on since the war in Ukraine started.

If USA wants to track Tayfun or CHENK test firing, they can easily do it with their satellites and space based sensors. Or even better, from AEGIS ABM site in Deveselu, Romania.
Sorry, but there is a limit to how much intelligence you can gather with space-based sensors or long range radars. There is nothing that beats on-site intelligence.
 

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This 25 km number, is it air launch range, or land launch?

Spike NLOS' range is 32 km land-launch, 50 km air.
Land launch. Roketsan always quotes conservative range figures.
Atak-2 can climb to 20000 feet. Umtas-GM will have a longer range when launched from that altitude.
 

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It seems like the hybrid seeker sub-Atmaca project is axed. Sub-Atmaca will come in two versions (similar to surface variants) IIR and RF but there won't be a hybrid seeker(IIR+RF) version.
 

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Land launch. Roketsan always quotes conservative range figures.
Atak-2 can climb to 20000 feet. Umtas-GM will have a longer range when launched from that altitude.
Yes. They did the same thing while giving ranges of OMTAS (5+ km range) and UMTAS (10,5 km range for first variant and 16 for second one)
 

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It seems like the hybrid seeker sub-Atmaca project is axed. Sub-Atmaca will come in two versions (similar to surface variants) IIR and RF but there won't be a hybrid seeker(IIR+RF) version.
There were rumours about RF+IIR hybrid seeker Atmaca since 2019. What do you think is the reason to end this project? costs?
 

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