TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[2033]

Possibly idealab or another producer that once made a low-cost turbojet.

I have been waiting for an engine since Havva Hanim moved to Baykar.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/havva-kazdal-zeytin-8b1b6916?trk=feed_main-feed-card_feed-reaction-header

 

[Anmdt]

I have been waiting for an engine since Havva Hanim moved to Baykar.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/havva-kazdal-zeytin-8b1b6916?trk=feed_main-feed-card_feed-reaction-header

If i haven't misheard in the past, Baykar was interested in engine business in the past but don't know what is the current stage. It doesn't make for TJ class but that would have been interesting if they have truly put Black Sea Shield in action and established a factory here. Still it would be hard for them to withdraw engineers or technicians from TEI - GE - Kale.

 

[fushkee]

I don’t approve much to be used the limited sources of companies and also country as well. Some companies should focus on certain professional areas. We have three companies which produce engine from mini to giant. ( idealab, kale and tei)
We don’t have sufficient resources to divide much.
baykar should concentrate its own expertise which is unmanned airplane/aircrafts.

 

[BaburKhan]

TÜBİTAK Finishes AKBABA Missile’s Antenna Layout Analysis | TURDEF

ROKETSAN’s AKBABA anti-radiation missile’s second phase antenna layout analysis was completed according to the 2023 Annual Report of TÜBİTAK.

turdef.com

 

[BaburKhan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1780937775442788761

 

[Zafer]

From what I can tell
Kemankeş-1 has 6 kg and
Kemankeş-2 has 20 kg payload capacity

 

[Strong AI]

Golden Age of Turkish Aviation

Bayraktar #AKINCI

2 ⃣ x TEBER Guidance Kit Firing Test

Bull's Eye

#BAYKAR @ROKETSAN

#MilliTeknolojiHamlesi

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1781058312181604532

 

[BaburKhan]

China Reveals 'World's Longest Air-To-Air Missile'; PL-17 Missile Spotted On PLAAF's J-16 Fighter Jet

China has reportedly revealed its longest-range air-to-air missile (AAM), the PL-17, on a J-16 fighter, putting to rest speculations about what the missile looks like after its existence began to be noted a few years ago. Longer than the PL-15 AAM with a reach of around 300 kilometers as per...

www.eurasiantimes.com

Is in long term a Development of a AA Missile planned for Kaan which have similar Characteristics like the PL-17 ? The PL-17 is a long-range BVR Missile which aim to destroy Tanker, AWACS and MPA. The Rabge of the Missile is up to 400 km.

In my Opinion there is a need for such an Missile, since Greece and France signed a mutual Defence Pact and EU Article 42.7 is uncertainty Factor.

 

[Afif]

China Reveals 'World's Longest Air-To-Air Missile'; PL-17 Missile Spotted On PLAAF's J-16 Fighter Jet

China has reportedly revealed its longest-range air-to-air missile (AAM), the PL-17, on a J-16 fighter, putting to rest speculations about what the missile looks like after its existence began to be noted a few years ago. Longer than the PL-15 AAM with a reach of around 300 kilometers as per...

www.eurasiantimes.com

Is in long term a Development of a AA Missile planned for Kaan which have similar Characteristics like the PL-17 ? The PL-17 is a long-range BVR Missile which aim to destroy Tanker, AWACS and MPA. The Rabge of the Missile is up to 400 km.

In my Opinion there is a need for such an Missile, since Greece and France signed a mutual Defence Pact and EU Article 42.7 is uncertainty Factor.

PL-17 size missile cannot be carried inside weapon bay. Also, it is only meant to arm Chinese flankers. LO platforms don't need them because they can get much closer.

 

[BaburKhan]

PL-17 size missile cannot be carried inside weapon bay. Also, it is only meant to arm Chinese flankers. LO platforms don't need them because they can get much closer.

It will be far better if such an Missile would fit in internal Weapons Bay, but if it's technicly archieveable it's another Question ? It's difficult even with LO Aircraft to come close to enemy Tanker, AWACS and MPA. Even with Gökhan BVR Missile, Kaan need to come close to the Missile max. Range. This mean the Escort can be capable to launch their BVR Missiles on Kaan.

 

[Aloster]

China Reveals 'World's Longest Air-To-Air Missile'; PL-17 Missile Spotted On PLAAF's J-16 Fighter Jet

China has reportedly revealed its longest-range air-to-air missile (AAM), the PL-17, on a J-16 fighter, putting to rest speculations about what the missile looks like after its existence began to be noted a few years ago. Longer than the PL-15 AAM with a reach of around 300 kilometers as per...

www.eurasiantimes.com

Is in long term a Development of a AA Missile planned for Kaan which have similar Characteristics like the PL-17 ? The PL-17 is a long-range BVR Missile which aim to destroy Tanker, AWACS and MPA. The Rabge of the Missile is up to 400 km.

In my Opinion there is a need for such an Missile, since Greece and France signed a mutual Defence Pact and EU Article 42.7 is uncertainty Factor.

Just a question pl-15 approximately same dimension like hisar rf (hisar rf slightly bigger ). With its total energy, can hisar rf reach 200 km air to air if it fired from high speed platform. I dont mention about guidance and targeting system .

 

[BaburKhan]

Just a question pl-15 approximately same dimension like hisar rf (hisar rf slightly bigger ). With its total energy, can hisar rf reach 200 km air to air if it fired from high speed platform. I dont mention about guidance and targeting system .

Other Members in this Forum would have more Knowledge on this Issue.

@TheInsider @Kartal1 @Zafer @Nutuk @Sanchez
@Quasar
@Anmdt
@Yasar_TR

 

[Heartbang]

China Reveals 'World's Longest Air-To-Air Missile'; PL-17 Missile Spotted On PLAAF's J-16 Fighter Jet

China has reportedly revealed its longest-range air-to-air missile (AAM), the PL-17, on a J-16 fighter, putting to rest speculations about what the missile looks like after its existence began to be noted a few years ago. Longer than the PL-15 AAM with a reach of around 300 kilometers as per...

www.eurasiantimes.com

Is in long term a Development of a AA Missile planned for Kaan which have similar Characteristics like the PL-17 ? The PL-17 is a long-range BVR Missile which aim to destroy Tanker, AWACS and MPA. The Rabge of the Missile is up to 400 km.

In my Opinion there is a need for such an Missile, since Greece and France signed a mutual Defence Pact and EU Article 42.7 is uncertainty Factor.

We could strap Siper missiles to KAAN for such purpose. Heck, if developed accordingly, KAAN's current weapons bay's could pack 2 Siper block-2's with boosters for oodles of range. I calculated that previously on this thread. I recommend you search for it.

Edit: here it is:

TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

Should we expect to see some of these changes in the upcoming P1or are they for even later prototypes? P1 will look a bit different, as noted by the head engineer himself. I'm expecting some minor changes to the later prototypes.

defencehub.live

Just a question pl-15 approximately same dimension like hisar rf (hisar rf slightly bigger ). With its total energy, can hisar rf reach 200 km air to air if it fired from high speed platform. I dont mention about guidance and targeting system .

A common way to calculate air-launched range of ground launched munitions is to triple the ground launched range.
With that logic, Siper ürün-1 with 100 km's of range has roughly 300 km's of range when air launched.(excluding things like the size of NEZ for purposes of simplifying
You could also observe this on İHA-122 and İHA-230, which are air launched version of TRG-122 and TRG-230 artillery rockets.

 

[BaburKhan]

We could strap Siper missiles to KAAN for such purpose. Heck, if developed accordingly, KAAN's current weapons bay's could pack 2 Siper block-2's with boosters for oodles of range. I calculated that previously on this thread. I recommend you search for it.

Edit: here it is:

TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

Should we expect to see some of these changes in the upcoming P1or are they for even later prototypes? P1 will look a bit different, as noted by the head engineer himself. I'm expecting some minor changes to the later prototypes.

defencehub.live

A common way to calculate air-launched range of ground launched munitions is to triple the ground launched range.
With that logic, Siper ürün-1 with 100 km's of range has roughly 300 km's of range when air launched.(excluding things like the size of NEZ for purposes of simplifying
You could also observe this on İHA-122 and İHA-230, which are air launched version of TRG-122 and TRG-230 artillery rockets.

If you triple Siper Block II you will come at a Range of 450 km.

 

[I_Love_F16]

China Reveals 'World's Longest Air-To-Air Missile'; PL-17 Missile Spotted On PLAAF's J-16 Fighter Jet

China has reportedly revealed its longest-range air-to-air missile (AAM), the PL-17, on a J-16 fighter, putting to rest speculations about what the missile looks like after its existence began to be noted a few years ago. Longer than the PL-15 AAM with a reach of around 300 kilometers as per...

www.eurasiantimes.com

Is in long term a Development of a AA Missile planned for Kaan which have similar Characteristics like the PL-17 ? The PL-17 is a long-range BVR Missile which aim to destroy Tanker, AWACS and MPA. The Rabge of the Missile is up to 400 km.

In my Opinion there is a need for such an Missile, since Greece and France signed a mutual Defence Pact and EU Article 42.7 is uncertainty Factor.

Kaan doesn’t need such missile, Gökhan will be more than enough to do the job. Also don’t forget that when you shoot your missile, you have to maintain the lock all the way to the target, at least close enough for your missile to activate it’s tiny radar and lock the target by itself, typically when it is a few Nautical Miles from it.

And I think it would be pretty hard to consistently lock a plane at that range.

 

[Heartbang]

Also don’t forget that when you shoot your missile, you have to maintain the lock all the way to the target,

You could delegate that job to other platforms now. Its called network-centric warfare.

 

[BaburKhan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1783117930156216580

For Bora, Tayfun and Cenk it could be also possible to use an intelligent loitering Munition, like the Korean do by their KTSSM.

 

[what]

On GLDSB:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1783514363841630309

 

[UkroTurk]

My dream weapon failed in Ukraine due to EW GPS jamming.


How could our TRG artillery rockets work?
There is a lesson for Turkish defense industry

Ukraine-Russia war live: 100-mile US glide bombs fail in Ukraine

Much-vaunted US-supplied glide bombs given to Ukraine “didn’t work” due to a combination of mud and Russian signal jamming, the Pentagon has admitted.

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Afif]

On GLDSB:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1783514363841630309

Not surprised, it spends a lot more time in the air than M31 or TRG-230 high supersonic rockets. In a GNSS denied environment, longer flight times means
INS increasingly looses more accuracy by each minute.