TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Quasar]

What the Konsberg's do is replace iron with titanium to make warhead lighter and keeping expolosive high. Cost of titanium will be very high. Problem here whether the titanium sharapnels will be worser/same/better effect compared to iron ones?

Most probably titanium is used with the warhead penetration casing which serves as a load bearing structure. The casing is designed to penetrate into a ship's structure before the delayed fuse fires the high explosive in the warhead. A titanium warhead penatration casing will be more efective for sure.

 

[Hexciter]

A titanium warhead penatration casing will be more efective for sure.

I'm not sure about this and needs sources

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Turkish Anti-tank and Anti-personal missile family

KUZGUNKY	40+km	180mm	IIR/SAL/MMW	Trials
NLOS	30+km	?	IIR(?)	Development
UMTASER	16km	160mm	IIR/SAL	Trials
UMTAS	8km	160mm	IIR/SAL	Service
OMTAS	4km	160mm	IIR	Service
KARAOK	2,5km	125mm	IIR	Delivery
TANOK	6km	120mm	SAL	Development
CIDA	0,75km	90mm	SAL	Unknown
METE	1km	40mm	SAL	Trials

 

[Siper>MMU]

Turkish Anti-tank and Anti-personal missile family

Missiles	Range	Diameter	Guidance	Status
NLOS	30+km	?	IIR (?)	Development
UMTAS	8+km	160mm	IIR - SAL	In service
OMTAS	4km	160mm	IIR	In service
KARAOK	2,5km	125mm	IIR	Delivery
TANOK	6km	120mm	SAL	Development
CIDA	0,75km	90mm	SAL	Unknown (?)
METE	1km	40mm	SAL	In trials

CIDA is cancelled

 

[Osman]

Turkish Anti-tank and Anti-personal missile family

Missiles	Range	Diameter	Guidance	Status
NLOS	30+km	?	IIR (?)	Development
UMTAS	8+km	160mm	IIR - SAL	In service
OMTAS	4km	160mm	IIR	In service
KARAOK	2,5km	125mm	IIR	Delivery
TANOK	6km	120mm	SAL	Development
CIDA	0,75km	90mm	SAL	Unknown (?)
METE	1km	40mm	SAL	In trials

Umtas block2 has a range of 16 km. Source: İsmail Demir. https://www.defenceturk.net/menzili-yukseltilen-l-umtas-16-kmden-hedefleri-vuracak

 

[Ahmad]

Turkish Anti-tank and Anti-personal missile family

Missiles	Range	Diameter	Guidance	Status
NLOS	30+km	?	IIR (?)	Development
UMTAS	8+km	160mm	IIR - SAL	In service
OMTAS	4km	160mm	IIR	In service
KARAOK	2,5km	125mm	IIR	Delivery
TANOK	6km	120mm	SAL	Development
CIDA	0,75km	90mm	SAL	Unknown (?)
METE	1km	40mm	SAL	In trials

Turkey should develop NLAW type ATGM. NLAW is extremely effective in close range and urban warfare.

 

[Bmx98]

Turkey should develop NLAW type ATGM. NLAW is extremely effective in close range and urban warfare.

Thats what Cida is supposed to be. Hiwever we dont know what happened to the project, they introduced the concept in 2019 however since then the system has not been talked about nor is featured in Roketsan's website.

 

[Bmx98]

CIDA is cancelled

Are you sure?where did you get the info? is it reliable.

 

[The Qonqueror]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1517569603374829573

 

[Yasar_TR]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1517569603374829573

English translation?

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Kale Arge Tuzla Development and Test Center

• Field Type Test Equipment (Bremze)
• Combustion Chamber Test System
• Alternator, Fuel Pump, Pyrotechnic Igniter and Electronic Control Unit Test Center
• Altitude Test Center (5000m, -50 Celcius)- Work to increase altitude capability (10000m) of this test center continues

 

[Cabatli_TR]

@SavunmaSanayiST.com One of them is about TRLG-300 trials ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1517821518923055105

 

[Hexciter]

Roketsan’s New Cruise Missile Brings Operational Flexibility on the Land, on the Sea and in the Air​

By
Asian Military Review
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April 22, 2022


Roketsan’s Cruise Missile ÇAKIR, which can be launched from land, naval and, air platforms, is set to become a new force multiplier for armed forces with its state-of-the-art features and effective warhead.
Roketsan continues to create new concepts on the battlefield with its new technologies. ÇAKIR – Roketsan’s new Cruise Missile – can be launched from fixed and rotary-wing aircraft, Assault Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (AUAVs)/UCAVs, AUSVs, tactical wheeled vehicles and naval platforms, and offers operational versatility against land and surface targets. With a range of over 150 kilometers, ÇAKIR’s targets include surface targets, land and surface targets close to shore, strategic land targets, field targets and, caves.

Equipped with a domestic and national KTJ-1750 turbojet engine developed by Kale Arge and the agility brought by its design, ÇAKIR easily performs tasks involving 3D waypoints defined during mission planning. With a unique warhead and hit point selection feature, the Cruise Missile offers a high destructive force against enemy targets.
ÇAKIR owes the ability to engage targets with high precision under all weather conditions to its advanced mid-phase and terminal phase guidance systems. Network-based datalink facilitates Man-in-the-Loop capability for target update, attack/re-attack for the in-flight target of opportunity and mission abort.

The most prominent features of ÇAKIR are; its design, which allows the platform to carry multiple payloads up to four missiles, and its ability to perform swarm concept missions with inter-communicating missiles. The swarm concept, through which coordinated attack scenarios with multiple missiles are enabled, can be used to overcome hostile defence systems, and ensures high effectivity against single or multiple targets.
ÇAKIR offers high survivability thanks to its unique design with radar absorbing material utilized on the frame. ÇAKIR’s ability for super sea-skimming and terrain masking in combination with radar-absorbing structure minimizes the detectability by enemy air-defence systems. Thanks to its Anti-jam GNSS and altimeter-supported inertial navigation system, ÇAKIR continues on its trajectory even in the event of intense electronic jamming.

Initiated with Roketsan’s resources, the design studies of the indigenous and national ÇAKIR cruise missile are continuing, with first tests scheduled for 2022, and platform integration for 2023.
Within the scope of the launching meeting of the Cruise Missile ÇAKIR on March 31, 2022, a contract will be signed between Roketsan and Kale Arge on the National Turbojet Engine Development. The signature ceremony which will take place with the participation of Turkish President of Defence Industries Prof. Dr. İsmail Demir, Roketsan Chairman of the Board Prof. Dr. Faruk Yiğit, Roketsan CEO Murat İkinci and Kale Group Vice Chairman of the Board Osman Okyay, covers the development and delivery of KTJ-1750 turbojet engine to be used in the Cruise Missile ÇAKIR.

Technical Specifications of ÇAKIR
Range	150 + km
Missile Weight	≤ 275 kg (Without Booster) ≤ 330 kg (With Booster)
Missile Diameter	≤ 275 mm
Missile Length	≤ 3.3 m (Without Booster) ≤ 4.1 m (With Booster)
Warhead Weight	70 kg
Warhead Type	High-Explosive Semi-Piercing Blast Fragmentation Thermobaric
Flight Engine	Turbojet Engine
Booster	Solid Fuel Launch Engine
Navigation Speed	High Subsonic (Mach 0.75–0.85)
Guidance	Mid-Phase Guidance: · Inertial Navigation System · Antijam Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS) · Radar Altimeter · Barometric Altimeter · Terrain Referenced Navigation System Terminal Phase Guidance: · Imaging Infrared-IIR · RF Seeker · Hybrid (IIR+RF) Seeker
Datalink	Network-Based Bidirectional Datalink
Platforms	Fixed and Rotary Wing Air Vehicles, UCAVs, AUSVs, Tactical Wheeled Land Vehicles, Surface Platforms

https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sha...bility-on-the-land-on-the-sea-and-in-the-air/

Roketsan's New Cruise Missile Brings Operational Flexibility on the Land, on the Sea and in the Air - Asian Military Review

Roketsan's Cruise Missile ÇAKIR, which can be launched from land, naval and, air platforms, is set to become a new force multiplier for armed forces with its state-of-the-art features and effective warhead.

www.asianmilitaryreview.com

 

[Turan]

First Metaverse defense İndustry fair

İ could't find appropriate threat for posting this. So I am posting under this threat.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr. Ismail Demir:

"Soon there will be tests of our RamJet missiles."

"We will enter a new phase/dimension in cruise missiles."

"We will be talking about much longer range variants of our air to air missiles soon."

 

[Cabatli_TR]

• Akbaba Anti-radar/radiation solid fuel Ramjet missile
• Gökhan BVR liquid fuel Ramjet missile

AKBABA ve GÖKHAN Füzeleri İçin RamJet İtki Sistemi

Türk savunma sanayii, AKBABA ve GÖKHAN Füzeleri için milli imkanlarla ramjet itki sistemi geliştirme çalışmalarını başarıyla sürdürüyor.

www.savunmasanayist.com

+ Ramjet Anti-ship missile

 

[RaptorF22]

Does integrating the SOM Cruise missile into fighters like Qataris Rafale require permission from France or obtaining part of the source code for the aircraft's computer ?

 

[Heartbang]

Mr. Ismail Demir:

"Soon there will be tests of our RamJet missiles."

"We will enter a new phase/dimension in cruise missiles."

"We will be talking about much longer range variants of our air to air missiles soon."

we need a Brahmos1/2 equivalent ASAP.

Does integrating the SOM Cruise missile into fighters like Qataris Rafale require permission from France or obtaining part of the source code for the aircraft's computer ?

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why would we need to do that? wouldnt it be more logical for them to provide air cover while our F16s yeet the SOMs?

 

[RaptorF22]

why would we need to do that? wouldnt it be more logical for them to provide air cover while our F16s yeet the SOMs

I have previously read @Cabatli_53 post saying that the missile can be integrated, but I don't remember if it is without a source code or with part of it ??!

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Does integrating the SOM Cruise missile into fighters like Qataris Rafale require permission from France or obtaining part of the source code for the aircraft's computer ?

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Manufacturers do not allow such integrations. It is not legally possible to do this integration on your own. After a comprehensive modernization if you have capability, all kinds of changes can be made in the payloads by mastering the mission computers and source codes. Example F16 Özgür.