TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Heartbang]

thoughts?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1583061685618716672

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr Ikinci: "Roketsan carries out more than 40 strategic R&D projects that it has not yet announced to public. One of them is the hypersonic missile tech which we consider to be game changers"

 

[Radonsider]

Mr Ikinci: "Roketsan carries out more than 40 strategic R&D projects that it has not yet announced to public. One of them is the hypersonic missile tech which we consider to be game changers"

HGV or Hypersonic CM?

 

[Cabatli_TR]

HGV or Hypersonic CM?

No details are given by Ikinci. These are all secret projects.

 

[Afif]

HGV or Hypersonic CM?

Probably HGV given tubitak already working on HCM. And that way turkey would gain both capability simultaneously. But also, it could two HCM project from two different institutions.

 

[Hexciter]

What was it?

 

[Combat-Master]

View attachment 49748 What was it?

Interview from SAHA

 

[TheInsider]

As expected companies started spilling beans. BTW Murat İkinci refers to a MaRV (Manevuerable Reentry Vehicle) and HGV (hypersonic gliding vehicle) that will be used with Tufan MRBM. Tubitak develops the hypersonic cruise missile in parallel with its scramjet engine development.


The video I posted is unfortunately made secret by the publisher. It was about the TRNAV GPS system and Tualcom. They were talking about anti-jam GPS product of Tualcom and Tualcom manager confirmed Tualcom delivered thousands of those. Our drillship fleet also uses anti-jam GPS as hostile forces tried to jam our drillships many times. They are doing this so that drillships drills the wrong location.

 

[Heartbang]

MaRV (Manevuerable Reentry Vehicle) and HGV (hypersonic gliding vehicle) that will be used with Tufan MRBM. Tubitak develops the hypersonic cruise missile in parallel with its scramjet engine development.

they mean fvck-all if they are not nuclear. hope we are not standing idle on that field.

 

[Fighter_35]

As expected companies started spilling beans. BTW Murat İkinci refers to a MaRV (Manevuerable Reentry Vehicle) and HGV (hypersonic gliding vehicle) that will be used with Tufan MRBM. Tubitak develops the hypersonic cruise missile in parallel with its scramjet engine development.


The video I posted is unfortunately made secret by the publisher. It was about the TRNAV GPS system and Tualcom. They were talking about anti-jam GPS product of Tualcom and Tualcom manager confirmed Tualcom delivered thousands of those. Our drillship fleet also uses anti-jam GPS as hostile forces tried to jam our drillships many times. They are doing this so that drillships drills the wrong location.

How do we know that tufan is mrbm and not srbm?

 

[Fighter_35]

And is there a video of Mr. ikinci mentioning hypersonic works? I'd like to watch it.

 

[Lool]

If you analyze the revealment process of tayfun you will see:

1) politicians: First disclosure happened in 30 august 2012 it was revealed via chp member of parliament adnan keskin (who was from nationalist/kemalist wing of the party), by prime minister erdoğan

2) media: both foreign (most probably fed by their intelligence or allied intelligence) and national media (mostly akp/mhp/vatan parti oriented) implied the existence of some ballistic missiles in their articles or news in different occasions during 2000s and 2010s.

3) social media: some twitter and youtube accounts owned by semi professional defence enthusiasts having access to close circles of the industry and very amateur ones which are owned by ultranationalists or akp fans

4) closed forums on turkish defence industry and military

5) retired generals

So this is a complicated process that we can not analyse taking into account one factor

I do not believe that these projects are being revealed without the consent of security bureacracy. It is not so easy

Yes but it wasn't coordinated by them, SSB who oversees the project, MoD and TAF who operates on the customer side, President is not sole authority of making decision on secrecy, but someone else related to "informatics" wanted to leak this partially for election materials and to gain an upper hand in the unbalance of the power emerging in the region. It was leaked by someone else i can tell by pinpointing. Both SSB and MoD made their points by telling " these are sensitive matters that shouldn't be dug further" indicating the missile exists, but they refuse to make comments on, only refering to "TR is on this path to gain strategical missile power".
The secret of who leaked this; See who prepares President's speeches and who manages his media appearance.

Honestly, regardless of whom the footage was leaked to, I think most of us should agree that the reveal of Tayfun was NOT a mistake! They have kept the missile in the shadows for nearly 6 years just so that they can screw up now? Unlikely

The reveal of Tayfun had some strategic and political gains
1- In preparation for the 2023 election; i-e, Erdo wants to boast and say to the ppl.... "look at what we are doing and financing"
2- It is a clear message to certain countries that was recently getting arrogant and agressive within the Turkish-Greek EEZ dispute; i-e, the placement of greek military personnel and equipment on demilitarised islands
3- Protecting the newly made Turkish-Libyan EEZ deal that Greece, Egypt, Italy, and France swore to do the impossible to stop such deal for falling onto Turkish hands
4- Sending a message that whoever allies with those who are anti-Turkey in the region are within firing range



Shit is escalating really quickly with many nations detest the thought of Turkey obtaining its own gas reserves! Just imagine what Turkey will be when it is independent from Russia in the gas area? Billions of dollars into the economy and probably more action in Syria and Libya. Above all, Turkey will have a pretty powerful weapon against Europe and Greece by blackmailing such countries with gas sales!
Turkey obtaining decent gas reserves in the Med East is akin to giving a lion its hard nails and teeth and this means the enemy's death

Many rumors indicate that some lovely "ally" countries have been jaming Turkish drillships in order to prevent them from drilling in the correct location! @TheInsider recent post clearly justify this
Post link: https://defencehub.live/threads/missile-smart-munition-programs.334/post-222980

 

[zio]

After the invasion of Ukr,the west needs more azerbaycan/turkmen/kazak gas supply through from Turkey.,but the the line is very close to Russian made conflict area and not secured yet.East mediterr gas supply will join later,Greece managed to do exlude TR from this plan,but USA saw earlier UKR-RUS conflict and the strategy was changed.Russia offer to TR to become gas hub,Turkey is second country in europe to get LNG from USA, Israel also will make a gas corridor to TR,Egypt playing a gas corridor to Greece, so everything is changing rapidly.

 

[Zafer]

So yeah, chess is a simple game to play, play geopolitics if you dare.
You can choose from weapons to people and every other element to move.

 

[Boz]

Ladies & Gentlemen, KUZGUN-TJ (& a surprise guest appearance)!

 

[Afif]

Brilliant! I knew This is exactly the best use that kuzgun TJ, kuzgun ss and new aselsan's IIR Tolun will have!

However, I was expecting quad packing capability like the miniature bomb. ( hopefully, it will be realized in the near future )

Unlike this scenario, if the airspace too volatile for a slow flying drone to operate in theatre, with the IIR and MMW varrients of kuzgun MMU, f16 and KE and ackinci will be able to hit moving targets on its own from an stand off range. ( more than 100km away )

 

[Anmdt]

Ladies & Gentlemen, KUZGUN-TJ (& a surprise guest appearance)!

I think TF-X might carry Kuzgun-TJ in multiple racks (Quad-racks) under the pylon. Also applies to KE, so TF-X is surely a placeholder for any aircraft launching the Kuzgun. I won't be surprised to see Anka carrying two of these, Aksungur-Akıncı carrying multiples in dual racks.

 

[AWP]

Ladies & Gentlemen, KUZGUN-TJ (& a surprise guest appearance)!

is the proportion of the missile to the plane is accurate ? because as far as I know that Kuzgun-TJ is somehow near the size of AGM-114 Hellfire

 

[Afif]

is the proportion of the missile to the plane is accurate ? because as far as I know that Kuzgun-TJ is somehow near the size of AGM-114 Hellfire

that is kuzgun ss.

 

[AWP]

that is kuzgun ss.

all 3 variants have the same size