TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Heartbang]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1656955775187656704

Cenk Ballistic Missile was spotted for the first time.

Do we know the range?

 

[Nutuk]

Compared to the size of the two men, it looks like also CENK has a diameter of 600mm.

Tayfun reached 600km, I estimate that CENK is probably ~800km not much more since diameter of the missile has not increased

 

[Kaan Azman]

CENK is being carried on a trailer type platform so it is most likely the biggest brother of the 3. I also suspect it has a a MaRV considering those suspiciously similar fins at the front.

 

[Avanti]

Do we know the range?

Enough for Murat ikinci to take it for a ride to Zagreb or Budapest

 

[Afif]

All right fellas, what we are seeing here is some reeeaaal deal.

Range probably around 1000-1200km or more.
Maximum speed probably around Mach 10-12.

Warhead's separation from the booster considerably reduces its RCS. Makes it harder for Radars to track.

In terminal phase it will do some maneuvers like this one, (below) making it difficult to shoot down with ABMs.

Also, I expect less than 10m CEP thanks to its control surfaces and active seeker.

To get an idea about what we are talking here, watch this.

 

[Kaan Azman]

CENK's carrier platform is revealed as BMC TUĞRA 8x8 tank carrier converted to carry the trailer type launcher

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1656965225814409218

 

[Heartbang]

Enough for Murat ikinci to take it for a ride to Zagreb or Budapest

YEE(and i can't stress this enough)HAW then!

 

[godel44]

That does look like a Marv. I wonder if that means it's also antiship.

 

[DBdev]

So what? Not like Greece can't shoot these down. Actually longer the range of a ballistic missile easier to shoot it down in multiple stages you want. 6 Patriot batteries + S300 can easily handle ANYTHING we can come up with. People act like these are nuclear ICBMs. Non nuclear missiles are just phallic symbols not much else IMHO. Iran has million of these can she dare to attack tiny Israel?

 

[Joe mark]

So what? Not like Greece can't shoot these down. Actually longer the range of a ballistic missile easier to shoot it down in multiple stages you want. 6 Patriot batteries + S300 can easily handle ANYTHING we can come up with. People act like these are nuclear ICBMs. Non nuclear missiles are just phallic symbols not much else IMHO. Iran has million of these can she dare to attack tiny Israel?

Lol, so what do you want?!!!!!!

 

[boredaf]

People act like these are nuclear ICBMs

Are you aware that ICBM means Inter Continental Ballistic Missile and nuclear part is just a warhead?

Non nuclear missiles are just phallic symbols not much else IMHO.

Your humble opinion is so fucking wrong that if you could show this to military personnel around the world they would all laugh at you with their asses as if they were Ace Ventura. So, ordinary missiles are just "phallic symbols" that's why countries around the world has been ordering them en masse and Ukraine has been begging for longer range ones for months for shits and giggles? How on earth can people be this ignorant in an age where information is freely accessible like never before is amazing.

6 Patriot batteries + S300 can easily handle ANYTHING we can come up with.

I'm sorry, would that be the same S300 that has been destroyed by Ukraine multiple times? And wow, you think 6 Patriot batteries will be able to handle anything we can throw at them? Wow, that is just embarrassing.

 

[TheInsider]

Missile experts! What are we seeing here?

Nothing we haven't mentioned before. Those guys in the video are attaching a heat shield to the conical warhead. Warhead has stage separation which means at some point in its flight warhead separates from the main body. Warhead has control surfaces which means the warhead has advanced guidance and makes maneuvers in the terminal phase. Old messages about Cenk are really close to the real thing.

 

[Trakya_forever]

Lol, so what do you want?!!!!!!

A machine gun on the missile. Innovative technology. "Taramalı bombe" in Turkish.

 

[TheInsider]

I think the diameter of the missile is around 900mm and it looks considerably longer than Tayfun.

A cylinder with a diameter of 600mm and 1m length has a volume of 0.2827 cubic meters
A cylinder with a diameter of 900mm and 1.5m length (%50 increase, it might be %30 or %60) has a volume of 0.9542 cubic meters.
Thus we can deduce the weight of the Cenk. It should be around 7.5-8.5 tonnes. This should be a ~2500km missile.

If the length stays the same it should weigh 5.5-5.75 tonnes. This should be a ~1500km missile.

 

[TheInsider]

BTW i expect different payloads to emerge as time passes. HGV and MIRV warheads will probably be developed.

 

[dBSPL]

What I'm really curious about is the apogee point on the missile's trajectory. But I think the real threat posed by CENK is not the maximum flight range, but the cruise missile type control system.

To some extent, as we have seen with the recent Iskander variants in our northern neighbour, we start to showing that we have similar capability(or can be reach in short term) in the theatre ballistic missile arsenal.

 

[Baryshx]

I think the diameter of the missile is around 900mm and it looks considerably longer than Tayfun.

A cylinder with a diameter of 600mm and 1m length has a volume of 0.2827 cubic meters
A cylinder with a diameter of 900mm and 1.5m length (%50 increase, it might be %30 or %60) has a volume of 0.9542 cubic meters.
Thus we can deduce the weight of the Cenk. It should be around 7.5-8.5 tonnes. This should be a ~2500km missile.

If the length stays the same it should weigh 5.5-5.75 tonnes. This should be a ~1500km missile.

I think it's between 1000-1500km.

 

[Oublious]

I think i have found a new hobby...

Could somebody show us what the possibilities is on googlemaps...

 

[AmirIGM]

Any ideas (maybe based on knowledge of existing Turkish missile tech) on the materials used in this CENK missile? The missile's range would vary greatly if the motor casing (or even the outer shell) was made of carbon composite instead of more traditional materials like steel.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Any ideas (maybe based on knowledge of existing Turkish missile tech) on the materials used in this CENK missile? The missile's range would vary greatly if the motor casing (or even the outer shell) was made of carbon composite instead of more traditional materials like steel.

If I remember corrrectly, It has been around 5/6 years since Roketsan introduced composite motor casing technology to the public so all new generation Turkish ballistic missiles and 1,35m diameter Şimsek SLV are produced/will be produced with composite technology...