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Where is this launch site? Trabzon airport ?
And for longer ballistic missiles Turkiye can launch it from iğneada toward Blacksea Trabzon 1000km distance + altitude 3000-5000 km i think it can be launched from there .
 
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Where is this lunch site? Yrabzon airport ?
And for longer ballistic missiles Turkiye can lunch it from iğneada toward Blacksea trabzon 1000km distance + altitude 3000-5000 km i think can lunched from there .
New Rize-Artvin Airport.
 

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Two different Tayfun missile launchers in same image

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The top one could be Bora canister. Not Tayfun.
If you check below picture shared by Kaan Azman on twitter, they are different size canisters. Taking the hydrolic lift mechanism as same he has extrapolated measurements too; as shared by @Al Lablabi here.

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The top one could be Bora canister. Not Tayfun.
If you check below picture shared by KAAN Azman on twitter, they are different size canisters. Taking the hydrolic lift mechanism as same he has extrapolated measurements too; as shared by @Al Lablabi here.

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It is also Tayfun and the image was taken from previous intro shared by SSB. There is probably major difference between missile used in previous test and current one.

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It is also Tayfun and the image are taken from previous intro shared by SSB

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Yes. But if you watch the actual launching of the missile video, the canisters are different. This is supposedly the second and latest launch.
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This is the first launch.
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The canisters are longer but different in both.
SSB and Roketsan are trying to confuse us. Mixing Bora and Tayfun launch videos.
 

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Where is this launch site? Trabzon airport ?
And for longer ballistic missiles Turkiye can launch it from iğneada toward Blacksea Trabzon 1000km distance + altitude 3000-5000 km i think it can be launched from there .
With a little maneuvering, the distance between Tekirdağ/İğneada and Artvin/Hopa is 1100 km
 

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I suspect they might be making 2 different configurations with the same warhead. One being the BORA sized missile with 561++ km range and other being the thing we have seen today with god knows how many kilometers range.
 
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No range is given for this Tayfun missile range of today lunch?
How do you think it can reach ?
I think ~1000 km if it is 9 meter missile .
 

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If we are not going to furnish a MRBM with a nuclear warhead, it is irrelevant and waste of money to send it 1000+km away , especially if it is closer to 3000km away. To convey a typically 450-600kg warhead to that sort of distance, is cheaper by an aircraft.
But if we have a really heavy missile with a big warhead and can travel at very high hypersonic speeds at mid course, then it can be very deadly within 600-1200km range because :
1. It would be able to carry more explosives and fuel to carry it in to it’s mid course.
2. With suppressed trajectory and manoeuvring it becomes even more difficult to intercept.
3. With a very high terminal weight it‘s speed at impact could be hypersonic. That further adds to it’s difficulty of being intercepted.

If we watch the two launches of this missile, it is evident that different flight trajectories have been set.

Since missiles like Barak 8 and it’s ER version can effectively intercept quasi ballistic missiles like Iskander, it is prudent of Roketsan to introduce certain capabilities in to our Tayfun and CENK missiles rather than concentrating on pure long range.
 

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it is irrelevant and waste of money to send it 1000+km away , especially if it is closer to 3000km away. To convey a typically 450-600kg warhead to that sort of distance, is cheaper by an aircraft.
Modern nuclear warheads tend to be quite a lot lighter than 450 kilos. If you manage to make a 3000-something km range missile capable of yeeting 450 kilos, that missile will surely go farther with a 180-270 kg warhead.(weight of W87, warhead used in the minuteman 3's, capable of up to 475 kilotons.)

That's one leg of the nuclear triad, right there.
 
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