TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Baryshx]

IIRC @Bogeyman once put this forward after Turkish operation in Northern Syria.

If I remember their stock are depleted fast so TSK meeds to make sudden imports from SK.

@Bogeyman ?

Yes. We had to buy artillery ammunition from Korea. During operations in Syria

I've read that somewhere too.

 

[Kaan Azman]

MKE is still in process of transformation in terms of conduct and I feel like alternative manafacturers for simple stuff like HE rounds would be nice.

 

[Bogeyman]

IIRC @Bogeyman once put this forward after Turkish operation in Northern Syria.

If I remember their stock are depleted fast so TSK meeds to make sudden imports from SK.

@Bogeyman ?

We imported ammunition from South Korea during Operation Olive Branch. Operation Olive Branch was carried out in 2018. That's 5 years.
The last major operation was Operation Spring Shield in 2020. Roketsan and MKE have opened many factories in recent years to double their mass production capacity. I don't think we will have problems with finished products any time soon. But if a regional war breaks out, the picture will change, of course.

 

[boredaf]

Carl Gustaf recoilless rifles

Apparently Japan just ordered some as well, Carl Gustaf recoilless rifles are truly a timeless classic. I agree with you btw, I hope we have plan for something similar that can easily be used by a single soldier, something like that will always come in handy.

 

[Kaan Azman]

It offers power, range and practicality at the same time. As of today we even have a laser guided round option, wouldn't be hard for ROKETSAN to make one as well considering they can minimize electronics and seekers till 40mm diameter missiles.

 

[Huelague]

We imported ammunition from South Korea during Operation Olive Branch.

We have need to import ammunition, because we havent much, for a tiny operation? Whats wrong with MKE?

 

[Dmr]

It offers power, range and practicality at the same time. As of today we even have a laser guided round option, wouldn't be hard for ROKETSAN to make one as well considering they can minimize electronics and seekers till 40mm diameter missiles. View attachment 62106

That would be awesome,however TSK doesn't seem to exited about ASSAV's C.Gustav copy.I mean it's been almost 3 years since that product was introduced,yet no news about even testing let alone order of the launcher or ammo for it from Turkish army.I guess they have too much of those RPG rounds in storage so they are not in any hurry for new weapons.

 

[Bogeyman]

We have need to import ammunition, because we havent much, for a tiny operation? Whats wrong with MKE?

MKE's production capability was very limited in 2018. Because everything from warhead production to raw materials was imported. (RDX, HMX and CXM) Later, this gap was closed year by year with Roketsan. And in 2021, we gained facilities where we can mass produce explosive raw materials.

Cumhurbaşkanı Erdoğan: Yeni nesil patlayıcı üretim kabiliyetinde süper lige çıktık

Cumhurbaşkanı Erdoğan, "Enerjetik Malzemeler Üretim Tesisi sayesinde ülke olarak yeni nesil patlayıcı üretim kabiliyetinde süper lige çıktık." dedi. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

https://portal.turkpatent.gov.tr/anonim/arastirma/patent/sonuc/dosya?patentAppNo=2022/011033&documentsTpye=all

 

[Saithan]

MKE's production capability was very limited in 2018. Because everything from warhead production to raw materials was imported. (RDX, HMX and CXM) Later, this gap was closed year by year with Roketsan. And in 2021, we gained facilities where we can mass produce explosive raw materials.

Cumhurbaşkanı Erdoğan: Yeni nesil patlayıcı üretim kabiliyetinde süper lige çıktık

Cumhurbaşkanı Erdoğan, "Enerjetik Malzemeler Üretim Tesisi sayesinde ülke olarak yeni nesil patlayıcı üretim kabiliyetinde süper lige çıktık." dedi. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

https://portal.turkpatent.gov.tr/anonim/arastirma/patent/sonuc/dosya?patentAppNo=2022/011033&documentsTpye=all

Are we talking about highest techlevel automated production or human ressources for assembly lines ?

 

[Bogeyman]

Are we talking about highest techlevel automated production or human ressources for assembly lines ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1387814515266441222

Established in 12 months with an investment of $25 million
RDX, HMX and CXM raw materials to be used in ammunition and rockets will be produced
Annual production capacity of 200 tons
Total area of 45 thousand m2

Yes that's right. Autonomous production is carried out.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

For information, Facilities that will support Roketsan and MKE in peace and war times as follows;

One of the munition production facilities that received government incentives to support Roketsan and MKE belongs to the Assan group. They provide this additional production capability with an investment of over 800 million TL.

Another one is Mite defense. It will produce 360 million cartridges per year in different calibers for the army with the production facility it established in Çorum. Mite belongs to Ahlatcı group as well.

Ahlatçı group in cooperation with MKE establishing a facility in Çorum, where 1200 people will work and with a gunpowder production capacity of 1500ton/year, with an investment costing 6 billion TL.
The gunpowder to be produced will be processed in this facility from raw material to final product. 40% of the gunpowder produced will be purchased directly by MKE and %60 to abroad.

Istiklal defence facility Kirikkale production capacity;
5,56/7,62 and 9mm 2 billion piece/year
40mm 200000 pieces/year,
60/81mm 100000 piece/year,
120mm 50000 piece/year,
120mm rocket 50000 piece/year,
155mm HE 50000 piece/year

ZSR
9×19 mm series full metal jacket (FMJ) pistol cartridges
9 mm diameter sound cartridges
5.56×45 mm infantry rifle cartridges
7.62×39 mm infantry rifle cartridges
7.62×51 mm infantry rifle cartridges
Pistol cartridge capsules

ZSR which started mass production of infantry rifle cartridges, produced the first prototypes of 12.7×99 mm heavy machine gun cartridges . ZSR's annual production capacity is 120 million units for 9×19 mm cartridges; For infantry rifle cartridges, nearly 50 million units.

Turaç Defense Company also serves the defense industry with its annual production capacity of more than 200 million cartridges. The private company that received permission to produce rifled cartridges also produces for the army.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

In addition to these private companies, Roketsan and MKE are also making new investments to increase their production capacity to meet intense demand coming from abroad. I think when these investments are completed and together with private sector facilities, Turkiye will probably become one of the strongest production bases in Europe.

 

[Siper>MMU]

nuclear warhead when

 

[Baryshx]

nuclear warhead when

Roketsan Pakistan facilities are interested in that business

 

[Huelague]

Because everything from warhead production to raw materials was imported

Is that the issue, because they were not able for mass production.

 

[Huelague]

Roketsan Pakistan facilities are interested in that business

We urgently need.

 

[Bogeyman]

Is that the issue, because they were not able for mass production.

I guess that wasn't the only problem. In 2018, 120 mm HE tank ammunition was probably not produced in our country. But then the embargo may have come to raw materials as well. Because at that time, we were embargoed for everything against us.

 

[Bogeyman]

I guess that wasn't the only problem. In 2018, 120 mm HE tank ammunition was probably not produced in our country. But then the embargo may have come to raw materials as well. Because at that time, we were embargoed for everything against us.

A reminder: In Operation Olive Branch, sabot shells were used throughout the operation because the tanks ran out of 120 mm HE ammunition.

 

[Ecderha]

We have need to import ammunition, because we havent much, for a tiny operation? Whats wrong with MKE?

I would like to remind one FACT which may gave you the answer.
ex MKE director was caught for selling all IP, blueprints, process of building etc. of Turkyie own products.
I think it was 2016-2017 when this happened.
After this happened Turkiye government start a procedure of check up MKE company. It is look like that corruption was on HIGH level.

I think 2018-2019 were years where MKE company was reconstructed/build up as cleaning up organization, people in charge, machines etc.

 

[TheInsider]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714581964492292360

Pakistan has successfully conducted a flight test of Ababeel Weapon System
-Specs -
MIRV-based MR BM
Range: 2200Km
TEL, Solidfuel
Warhead: 3-8
MIRVs (3RV of 500kg, 5RV of 300kg, 8RV of 185kg)
Total Payload:1500kg