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SAGE has turned into a blackhole of information recently for any on-going project, last it was told both SOM-C and J ongoes data-link enabled surface engagement trials.

Might be SOM - Miniature as well, but hope it is not referring to Miniature.
What do C and J stand for?
 

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What do C and J stand for?
J is Joint of F35 Joint Strike Fighter program, you can see stuff like JDAM, JSOW, JSM. SOM was made with Lockeed and meant to be used with F35, it turned out dimensions of plane and munition didn't match after design went on and they made a J version. It was never integrated so now we said we want to put in it KAAN. I think M is just a rename of J because why name it after JSF if it won't be used with it.
 

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J is Joint of F35 Joint Strike Fighter program, you can see stuff like JDAM, JSOW, JSM. SOM was made with Lockeed and meant to be used with F35, it turned out dimensions of plane and munition didn't match after design went on and they made a J version. It was never integrated so now we said we want to put in it KAAN. I think M is just a rename of J because why name it after JSF if it won't be used with it.
So M refers MMU like J is for JSM.
 

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This is simply magnificent. Awesome capability that only so few have. Tolun will keep growing with what's learned from GBU-39s we get from US.
This a great option for our planes to have, but, I also love the fact that we have 2 different drones that can also use this. In fact, Aksungur might be able to carry 8 instead of 4.

Edit: I was wrong about Aksungur. Its inner weapon station can apparently carry 500 kgs, which would be enough for 4 Tolun + Sadak, but TAI lists its payload capacity as "750 kgs +" I misremembered it as being 1500 kgs. So, Aksungur is out in that regard, unless TAI massively underreported its payload capacity.
 
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Can u explain that
Tolun is a conceptual twin to GBU-39 Small Diameter Bomb. It's a small(100kgs), highly precise bomb that can be carried in high numbers by small fighters. F-16 can carry 8 at a time. For high value targets like VIPs, aircraft and radar installations on an airbase, complete air defence complexes, important points in military bases, a flight of 2 F-16s with a typical combat load can carry 16 Toluns, compared to a maximum of 8 Mk-82s in double racks. While a 4 aircraft flight can carry 32 compared to 16 Mk-82s. It basically lets you engage many times targets in a single sortie compared to regular guided bombs.

It's directly analogous to GBU-39, which is of course used by multiple countries that are close to US, including us in the future, but only few have such a munition they own themselves. An IIR variant closer to GBU-59 is also in the works.

total 8 drops....
I think that's just a different camera angle, targets look identical to first ones shown.
 

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Honey wake up, new Çakır test dropped!


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Efe of the Aegean. :love:

This missile group is perfect for the Sea of Islands and other seas with a similar structure. We are mostly platform-based discussing, but in terms of ammunition and electronic systems, we are going through a period in which we will truly disrupt the traditional balance of power around us and further consolidate our dominant position.
 

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By the way, I might be reading too much into this and the missiles on the first test fire from last year had no guidance sections probably, but unlike those missiles with a supposed RF seeker, this Çakır has an IIR seeker.

Çakır from May 2023:
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Çakır from February 24 with IIR seeker

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