TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

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No I meant like massed FAB strike concept Russians use, just with very cheap turboprop drones.
Oh, I get it now. I don't know if drones would be cheaper than MK bombs + guidance kits though. Even the heavies MK-84 cost something like 10-15 thousand dollars iirc, add simple guidance kits with foldable wings, I doubt it would cost more than 50k. Even Shaheeds cost more than that I think. And those guidance kits give them quite a bit of range. (Yes, I'm quite a fan of them)
 

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Oh, I get it now. I don't know if drones would be cheaper than MK bombs + guidance kits though. Even the heavies MK-84 cost something like 10-15 thousand dollars iirc, add simple guidance kits with foldable wings, I doubt it would cost more than 50k. Even Shaheeds cost more than that I think. And those guidance kits give them quite a bit of range. (Yes, I'm quite a fan of them)
I'm again correcting myself, we can utilize FAB-like bombs, we can just use very cheap drones to launch them from. No gimbals, no sensors etc. They should be able to operate on a network centric principle. I see (maybe incorrectly) a need for delivery platforms to get cheaper and more numerous. We can achieve this by sacrificing some aspects of the drones. They don't have to do everything. Just limit their job with loitering a long time with long range precision munitions, and then releasing them at desired direction/angle/speed. It falls to the munition itself to do the hard part of finding the target, but we already have that kinds of missiles/bombs anyway. We now need a massed stand-off strike drone fleet. If we can learn anything from Russo-Ukrainian war, it's the need for mass.

Just picture an Akıncı with cheaper everything, no radar, no gimbal. Just able to carry a theoretical TRLG-300. Then imagine 100 more. Then think about them working in a synchronized manner, with approximately one 500kg warhead missile fired per 3 minutes. A true shock & awe tool.
 

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I'm again correcting myself, we can utilize FAB-like bombs, we can just use very cheap drones to launch them from. No gimbals, no sensors etc. They should be able to operate on a network centric principle. I see (maybe incorrectly) a need for delivery platforms to get cheaper and more numerous. We can achieve this by sacrificing some aspects of the drones. They don't have to do everything. Just limit their job with loitering a long time with long range precision munitions, and then releasing them at desired direction/angle/speed. It falls to the munition itself to do the hard part of finding the target, but we already have that kinds of missiles/bombs anyway. We now need a massed stand-off strike drone fleet. If we can learn anything from Russo-Ukrainian war, it's the need for mass.

Just picture an Akıncı with cheaper everything, no radar, no gimbal. Just able to carry a theoretical TRLG-300. Then imagine 100 more. Then think about them working in a synchronized manner, with approximately one 500kg warhead missile fired per 3 minutes. A true shock & awe tool.
You are thinking of something like XQ-58A Valkyrie.
xq-58-trolly-grand-sky.jpg

I think it makes sense.
 

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If we talking flying missile trucks, I'd say instead of a stripped down AKINCI, we should go for a structurally optimized platform that has the room to do the aeroballistic/cruise missile spam with ISR support.

It can be any of our UCAVs or fighters reporting where is the enemy, then our lovely truck would launch its missiles.
 

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This baby can hit a moving target. It is light enough that TB3 can carry at least 2x IHA-122. This baby can attack any Greek naval target at stand-off ranges other than Belharras.
 

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A reckless hunter, on the alert day and night! 🏹🎯

Our KARAOK Portable Anti-Tank Gun successfully completed its test firings. 🚀
We continue to produce our national technologies by further improving our capabilities at every step.

First footage is great, pretty low minimum arm distance. If budget wasn't an issue, it could be a great mix between NLAW and Javelin.
 

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I hope Aselsan is also working on heavier Tolun variants, it would really fill a void in our arsenal.

what void? There is Tolun, and a family of guided bombs from 500 lb to 2000 lbs, the only void is a longer range cruise missile such as Som-ER in 500km range
 

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Well, they would just be the KGK-82 tbh
what void? There is Tolun, and a family of guided bombs from 500 lb to 2000 lbs, the only void is a longer range cruise missile such as Som-ER in 500km range
Instead of having two production lines, one for the bomb and another for the guidance kit, a heavier Tolun would use just one line and be ready from the moment it leaves the production line without extra work. And not all guidance kits give the range Tolun has to a MK bomb. Imo, that is a missing link in our arsenal.
 

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ASELSAN TOLUN Ammunition has entered the Turkish Armed Forces inventory. TOLUN will provide F-16s with the capacity to carry 8 ammunition in a single sortie.

The first delivery of TOLUN ammunition, which has been under development by ASELSAN for a while, has been made to the Turkish Armed Forces. ASELSAN General Manager Ahmet Akyol announced the development.

The Miniature Bomb, which has a range of approximately 100 km under suitable conditions, is the equivalent of the MK-81 bombs with a weight of approximately 250 pounds. The Miniature Bomb is also capable of penetrating 1 meter of reinforced concrete. This capability was also confirmed during firing tests.
 

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