TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[MonteCarlo]

Yes, last test was announced as ~400km and this one was announced as longest distance and flight time so far so this one was 400+ km. how much further it was from last one we don't know

What I don’t understand Kara atmaca had already a range of 400 km when it was tested like two months ago or is this for ship launch atmaca

 

[Turkic]

Now what can we expect the range to be for SOM equipped with KTJ-3200
With french engines it was capped at 250KM.

There's a source saying 400-500 kms with KTJ-3200S(?) but I doubt it's reliability

 

[Huelague]

Where do you get all the suggestion of 400-600km?

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Yes, last test was announced as ~400km and this one was announced as longest distance and flight time so far so this one was 400+ km. how much further it was from last one we don't know

With full warhead or small /empty warhead reached 400+ km ? this is important

 

[MonteCarlo]

With full warhead or small /empty warhead reached 400+ km ? this is important

We don't know but I don't think there is any reason to doubt that Kara Atmaca can reach 400km that is well within the range estimate if you consider the differences with regular Atmaca. it has a more efficient engine, higher altitude ceiling and more fuel capacity.

 

[TheInsider]

I posted in the past. Kara Atmaca has a range of 500+km. It can probably reach 600km depending on flight profile, waypoints, etc.

 

[Huelague]

I posted in the past. Kara Atmaca has a range of 500+km. It can probably reach 600km depending on flight profile, waypoints, etc.

Under optimal conditions.

 

[boredaf]

ASELSAN's GÖZDE guidance kit became Türkiye's first guidance kit to hit a high-speed moving target.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1897181923421905347

 

[Strong AI]

ASELSAN's GÖZDE guidance kit became Türkiye's first guidance kit to hit a high-speed moving target.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1897181923421905347

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[TheInsider]

85 km/h

 

[Huelague]

Got ATMACA some (stealth) design changes?

 

[Huelague]

 

[Huelague]

Got ATMACA some (stealth) design changes?

If not have done right now, why not doing to reduce the RCS?

 

[JueVioleGrace]

Does the plan just include shooting the Anti-ship Atmaca, or is it planned to fire Kara-Atmaca from submarine aswell? So that you can shoot both sea and land targets from your submarines?

 

[zio]

Anti ship atmaca have a capability to attack land targets with iir seeker version.

 

[what]

At this speed we will not only have a submarine launched ATMACA but anti aircraft missile before IDAS even makes it into production. Great progress.

 

[Yasar_TR]

At this speed we will not only have a submarine launched ATMACA but anti aircraft missile before IDAS even makes it into production. Great progress.

IDAS is a fibre optic guided missile. Therefore it has limited range of 40 km. It is only good against helicopters, close by surface platforms and nearby land targets. It is a 0.65 Mach subsonic solid fuelled missile derived from IRIS-T. Beauty of the submarine version is that they can be quadpacked in to the 533mm torpedo tubes.
The missile gives the submarine the choice to defend itself against surface threats whilst submerged But as it uses its torpedo tubes to directly launch against targets, it could potentially give away its position.
Logically, capsule launched missiles should be safer as it would give stand off launching capabilities.

Regarding Kara-Atmaca from subs; with a 6m length, if it fits in to the capsule, the 533mm torpedo tubes are suitable. Standard Atmaca is 5.2m in length. If the capsule is made to measure for std Atmaca, then they may have to make new capsule for Kara Atmaca.

 

[Huelague]

Regarding Kara-Atmaca from subs; with a 6m length, if it fits in to the capsule, the 533mm torpedo tubes are suitable. Standard Atmaca is 5.2m in length. If the capsule is made to measure for std Atmaca, then they may have to make new capsule for Kara Atmaca.

Or launched from a future VLS.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Or launched from a future VLS.

Bro, to have VLS means, new, different and much more expensive subs.
Current MILDEN design doesn’t have VLS either. So it is more feasible to use capsules.
Besides, if we are ever to see the infamous “Gezgin” cruise missiles being launched from Reis and MILDEN subs, then we have to use longer capsules anyway.
Having said that; If we are going to store Gezgin cruise missiles in these ships, it would negate the need to have land attack Kara Atmaca stored as well.

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[Turkic]

Bro, to have VLS means, new, different and much more expensive subs.
Current MILDEN design doesn’t have VLS either. So it is more feasible to use capsules.
Besides, if we are ever to see the infamous “Gezgin” cruise missiles being launched from Reis and MILDEN subs, then we have to use longer capsules anyway.
Having said that; If we are going to store Gezgin cruise missiles in these ships, it would negate the need to have land attack Kara Atmaca stored as well.

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Turkish Submarine MİLDEN's Construction to Start in 2025 | TURDEF

Chief of the Turkish Navy Ercüment Tatlıoğlu has stated that the construction of MİLDEN national submarines will begin in 2025.

turdef.com

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Uhmmmm......???

It's starting to get awkward. Will it have VLS or not ?? First it was not going to have any. Then it was speculated that it will. And then we saw this ASFAT scaled model. I don't remember no changes to be rumored after so shouldn't it have them ?