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At this speed we will not only have a submarine launched ATMACA but anti aircraft missile before IDAS even makes it into production. Great progress.
 

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At this speed we will not only have a submarine launched ATMACA but anti aircraft missile before IDAS even makes it into production. Great progress.
IDAS is a fibre optic guided missile. Therefore it has limited range of 40 km. It is only good against helicopters, close by surface platforms and nearby land targets. It is a 0.65 Mach subsonic solid fuelled missile derived from IRIS-T. Beauty of the submarine version is that they can be quadpacked in to the 533mm torpedo tubes.
The missile gives the submarine the choice to defend itself against surface threats whilst submerged But as it uses its torpedo tubes to directly launch against targets, it could potentially give away its position.
Logically, capsule launched missiles should be safer as it would give stand off launching capabilities.

Regarding Kara-Atmaca from subs; with a 6m length, if it fits in to the capsule, the 533mm torpedo tubes are suitable. Standard Atmaca is 5.2m in length. If the capsule is made to measure for std Atmaca, then they may have to make new capsule for Kara Atmaca.
 
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Regarding Kara-Atmaca from subs; with a 6m length, if it fits in to the capsule, the 533mm torpedo tubes are suitable. Standard Atmaca is 5.2m in length. If the capsule is made to measure for std Atmaca, then they may have to make new capsule for Kara Atmaca.
Or launched from a future VLS.
 

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Or launched from a future VLS.
Bro, to have VLS means, new, different and much more expensive subs.
Current MILDEN design doesn’t have VLS either. So it is more feasible to use capsules.
Besides, if we are ever to see the infamous “Gezgin” cruise missiles being launched from Reis and MILDEN subs, then we have to use longer capsules anyway.
Having said that; If we are going to store Gezgin cruise missiles in these ships, it would negate the need to have land attack Kara Atmaca stored as well.

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Bro, to have VLS means, new, different and much more expensive subs.
Current MILDEN design doesn’t have VLS either. So it is more feasible to use capsules.
Besides, if we are ever to see the infamous “Gezgin” cruise missiles being launched from Reis and MILDEN subs, then we have to use longer capsules anyway.
Having said that; If we are going to store Gezgin cruise missiles in these ships, it would negate the need to have land attack Kara Atmaca stored as well.

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It's starting to get awkward. Will it have VLS or not ?? First it was not going to have any. Then it was speculated that it will. And then we saw this ASFAT scaled model. I don't remember no changes to be rumored after so shouldn't it have them ?
 
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Uhmmmm......???

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It's starting to get awkward. Will it have VLS or not ?? First it was not going to have any. Then it was speculated that it will. And then we saw this ASFAT scaled model. I don't remember no changes to be rumored after so shouldn't it have them ?
Use logic,where are you going to put the VLS on such a small sub(probably 6,3/4 m diameter) in diameter?
 

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I think people should realize that vls isn't going to be present on any submarine in service or being built at the moment. anything in design change (early stage) may be designed with vls. But unless construction starts then don't count on it.
 

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Ok,why is there no heat signature from the engine?
Check out 40-44 seconds where you will see the heat coming out of the engine as the missile makes a right turn.
This missile’s engine is a non afterburner turbojet. It won’t have flames spurting out like a f16 with AB.
 
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