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New SOM-J test. Peculiar.

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What's peculiar about it?

It's tilted 90 degrees on its axis, even though it's on a level downward flight without any visible maneuvering in the last leg. They are probably studying further flight envelopes.

“In the firing test, where challenging maneuvers to evade defense and radar systems and very low-altitude flight capabilities were demonstrated, #SOMJ proved itself”

this explains it I guess
 

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Wing span of our Simsek target plane is around 1.6metres. Looking at this picture and measuring it pro-rata with an engineer’s protractor ; the nose portion can not be more than 15cm wide. Its fuselage width is probably under 25cm.

An F16 fuselage at it’s widest, is over 3.1 metres, and where pilot sits it must be well over 1.6m .

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This missile, if it were aiming for the centre of the nose, it came within few centimetres of a 20-25cm wide target. It would have definitely made a hit to kill with an F16.
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But as per @boredaf has said it is nice to see they are testing these and improving them. Any points that need correcting will be taken in to consideration and the missile will mature to become as deadly as it was intended to be.

I am still looking forward to them being tested against an old f4 or an old F5.
 
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Wing span of our Simsek target plane is around 1.6metres
I'm pretty sure that's a standart twin engine Banshee. Number of Şimşek used tests I've sen are still very far in between. We really must be one of QinetiQ's biggest customers.

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Wing span of our Simsek target plane is around 1.6metres. Looking at this picture and measuring it pro-rata with an engineer’s protractor ; the nose portion can not be more than 15cm wide. Its fuselage width is probably under 25cm.

An F16 fuselage at it’s widest, is over 3.1 metres, and where pilot sits it must be well over 1.6m .

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This missile, if it were aiming for the centre of the nose, it came within few centimetres of a 20-25cm wide target. It would have definitely made a hit to kill with an F16.
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But as per @boredaf has said it is nice to see they are testing these and improving them. Any points that need correcting will be taken in to consideration and the missile will mature to become as deadly as it was intended to be.

I am still looking forward to them being tested against an old f4 or an old F5.
It's probably possible to calculate the radar cross section of this target with some uncertainty, if such data isn't available in open sources. It should be minimal. I wonder at what maximum range the F-16's radar can detect it, and at what range it can shoot it down.
 

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It's probably possible to calculate the radar cross section of this target with some uncertainty, if such data isn't available in open sources. It should be minimal. I wonder at what maximum range the F-16's radar can detect it, and at what range it can shoot it down.
These target drones carry "hot nose" to simulate all kinds of heat signatures and can also be equipped luneburg lenses to increase RCS and with radar augmenters to simulate radar homing missiles.
 

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