TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Sanchez]

Why blur the launcher

Security is good.

 

[Oublious]

Hisar-D will not be quad packed, this is a huge failure. 16 vls with HISAR-D or 8 Siper and 8 Hisar?

 

[Oublious]

Or they should make Bozdogan naval version.

 

[Pokemonte13]

Hisar-D will not be quad packed, this is a huge failure. 16 vls with HISAR-D or 8 Siper and 8 Hisar?

Nothing new here roketsan said they’re developing a new missile for that GM-1 may use similar components but that’s just a feeling

ROKETSAN's MİDLAS VLS Being Prepared for Different Needs | TURDEF

During Euronaval 2024, ROKETSAN Launcher Systems Manager Mustafa Özdemir talked about versions of MİDLAS VLS being developed for different needs.

turdef.com

 

[Pokemonte13]

My guess would be that hisar d is going to be the cheapest medium range option for ad would make sense for adkg and for tf2000. I doubt navy would be satisfied with single pack hisar d

 

[zio]

Hisar D can not be a long term missile because its slow around 2 mach,thats why quad pack unnecessary.İts difficult to respond multiple anti ship missiles and also there is a trend for süpersonic even hypersonic missiles.Roketsan is on the right way in terms of Midlas to adapt for siper and atmaca missiles,so you can make two seperate 16 cell midlas on istif class total 32 cell, this gives more flexible mission profiles,and means you can fire multiple missles more quickly.

 

[Oublious]

Hisar D can not be a long term missile because its slow around 2 mach,thats why quad pack unnecessary.İts difficult to respond multiple anti ship missiles and also there is a trend for süpersonic even hypersonic missiles.Roketsan is on the right way in terms of Midlas to adapt for siper and atmaca missiles,so you can make two seperate 16 cell midlas on istif class total 32 cell, this gives more flexible mission profiles,and means you can fire multiple missles more quickly.

Wher do you want to put another vls on the ship?

 

[Yasar_TR]

Hisar D can not be a long term missile because its slow around 2 mach,thats why quad pack unnecessary.İts difficult to respond multiple anti ship missiles and also there is a trend for süpersonic even hypersonic missiles.Roketsan is on the right way in terms of Midlas to adapt for siper and atmaca missiles,so you can make two seperate 16 cell midlas on istif class total 32 cell, this gives more flexible mission profiles,and means you can fire multiple missles more quickly.

What source do you have regarding Hisar class missiles’ speeds?

This is a closely guarded secret, and never been openly discussed. When they were being developed it was mentioned that they were 3+ Mach missiles. (See below article.)
Some article somewhere may have mentioned 2mach speed and it stuck. Nothing concrete ever been declared about their speeds.
These are missiles with dual pulse motors. Similarly powered missiles reach speeds in excess of 3.5 Mach and more. In fact some like sky-ceptor may reach 5.5 Mach.

Turkey Is Breaking New Ground with the Hisar-D RF Air Defense Missile

During a recent test, a Hisar-D RF intercepted a UAV simulating an enemy attack, proving end-to-end functionality from detection to destruction.

nationalinterest.org

 

[Afif]

What source do you have regarding Hisar class missiles’ speeds?

This is a closely guarded secret, and never been openly discussed. When they were being developed it was mentioned that they were 3+ Mach missiles. (See below article.)

There were Roeketsan data sheets from a recent expo showing HISAR A+ having a speed of Mach 2.5 and HISAR O+ having a speed of Mach 3.5. I imagine HISAR O RF will have similar speed to that of HISAR O+.

In fact some like sea-ceptor may reach 5.5 Mach.

Very much doubtfull. Any source for that?

 

[Huelague]

Hisar D can not be a long term missile because its slow around 2 mach

Never ever.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Very much doubtfull. Any source for that?

My bad. Should have read the post again . It is a mistake.

Skyceptor missile produced by Raytheon not seaceptor

https://www.deagel.com/Weapons/Stunner/a000918

Can you share that data sheet please?
Because none of the Roketsan paperwork states any speed related to these missiles. Technically the dual pulse engines should give higher speeds than a dual thrust version. Especially in terminal phase where it matters.

 

[Sanchez]

New SOM-J test. Peculiar.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1977690278598263263

 

[Fuzuli NL]

New SOM-J test. Peculiar.

View attachment 77714

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1977690278598263263

What's peculiar about it?

 

[Sanchez]

What's peculiar about it?

It's tilted 90 degrees on its axis, even though it's on a level downward flight without any visible maneuvering in the last leg. They are probably studying further flight envelopes.

 

[Ripley]

What's peculiar about it?

It's tilted 90 degrees on its axis, even though it's on a level downward flight without any visible maneuvering in the last leg. They are probably studying further flight envelopes.

“In the firing test, where challenging maneuvers to evade defense and radar systems and very low-altitude flight capabilities were demonstrated, #SOMJ proved itself”

this explains it I guess

 

[mTT]

BOZDOĞAN (WVRAAM) & GÖKDOĞAN (BVRAAM)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1979816808740794569

 

[boredaf]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1979816808740794569

Bozdoğan clearly missed its target, but nice to see more tests nonetheless.

 

[Sanchez]

Bozdoğan clearly missed its target, but nice to see more tests nonetheless.

It would be a kill if it was a real target and warhead, but no kinetic impact we can see.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Bozdoğan clearly missed its target, but nice to see more tests nonetheless.

Most Sam and air - air missiles blpw up when they are closse to target and are not hit to kill missiles .
Thats why they have explosives

 

[Yasar_TR]

Wing span of our Simsek target plane is around 1.6metres. Looking at this picture and measuring it pro-rata with an engineer’s protractor ; the nose portion can not be more than 15cm wide. Its fuselage width is probably under 25cm.

An F16 fuselage at it’s widest, is over 3.1 metres, and where pilot sits it must be well over 1.6m .

This missile, if it were aiming for the centre of the nose, it came within few centimetres of a 20-25cm wide target. It would have definitely made a hit to kill with an F16.

But as per @boredaf has said it is nice to see they are testing these and improving them. Any points that need correcting will be taken in to consideration and the missile will mature to become as deadly as it was intended to be.

I am still looking forward to them being tested against an old f4 or an old F5.