India Missiles and Guided Munitions

[iceream]

It's a mirv + Marv composite missile
Puts us up with the big boys

 

[iceream]

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Hey do you even read comments by members and respond or just post info ?

 

[Nilgiri]

India successfully tests new-gen nuclear-capable 'Agni Prime' ballistic missile

The 'Agni Prime' is a two-stage canisterised solid-propellant missile with dual redundant navigation and guidance system.

www.hindustantimes.com

India on Friday morning successfully test-fired 'Agni Prime' - a new generation of ballistic missiles - from off the coast of Odisha. Defence officials said all test objectives were met and said that the third consecutive (and successful) test of the 'Agni Prime' had 'established the accuracy and reliability of the system'.

Performance was validated using data obtained by many tracking systems, including radar, telemetry and electro-optical systems, the officials said.

These systems were deployed at different locations along the flight path, including two down-range ships at the terminal point, and covered the entire trajectory, officials added.

The first test was in June last year, with the second six months later - in December. On both those occasions too the missile 'followed textbook trajectory and met all mission objectives with a high level of accuracy', officials said.

The 'Agni Prime', or 'Agni-P', is a nuclear-capable new-gen advanced variant of the Agni class of missiles; it is a two-stage canisterised missile with a maximum range of 2,000 km.

Significantly, it weighs 50 per cent less than the Agni 3 missile and has new guidance and propulsion systems. In addition, since it is canisterised, it can be launched from rail or road, be stored for longer periods and can be transported as per operational requirements.

The successful test of the 'Agni Prime' underlines India's endeavour for its defence sector to be self-reliant.

Prime minister Narendra Modi this week hailed steps taken in that regard.

"Eight years ago India was the world's biggest defence importer... but the 'new India' has shown intent and resolve to 'Make in India' the success story of our defence sector," the prime minister said while inaugurating DefExpo 2022 in Gandhinagar in poll-bound Gujarat.

 

[iceream]

@Nilgiri Agni p your opinions

 

[Afif]

India successfully tests new-gen nuclear-capable 'Agni Prime' ballistic missile

The 'Agni Prime' is a two-stage canisterised solid-propellant missile with dual redundant navigation and guidance system.

www.hindustantimes.com

India on Friday morning successfully test-fired 'Agni Prime' - a new generation of ballistic missiles - from off the coast of Odisha. Defence officials said all test objectives were met and said that the third consecutive (and successful) test of the 'Agni Prime' had 'established the accuracy and reliability of the system'.

Performance was validated using data obtained by many tracking systems, including radar, telemetry and electro-optical systems, the officials said.

These systems were deployed at different locations along the flight path, including two down-range ships at the terminal point, and covered the entire trajectory, officials added.

The first test was in June last year, with the second six months later - in December. On both those occasions too the missile 'followed textbook trajectory and met all mission objectives with a high level of accuracy', officials said.

The 'Agni Prime', or 'Agni-P', is a nuclear-capable new-gen advanced variant of the Agni class of missiles; it is a two-stage canisterised missile with a maximum range of 2,000 km.

Significantly, it weighs 50 per cent less than the Agni 3 missile and has new guidance and propulsion systems. In addition, since it is canisterised, it can be launched from rail or road, be stored for longer periods and can be transported as per operational requirements.

The successful test of the 'Agni Prime' underlines India's endeavour for its defence sector to be self-reliant.

Prime minister Narendra Modi this week hailed steps taken in that regard.

"Eight years ago India was the world's biggest defence importer... but the 'new India' has shown intent and resolve to 'Make in India' the success story of our defence sector," the prime minister said while inaugurating DefExpo 2022 in Gandhinagar in poll-bound Gujarat.

i am little bit confused about the doctrinal logic behind it! india already has similar weapon right ?

 

[Rajendra Chola]

i am little bit confused about the doctrinal logic behind it! india already has similar weapon right ?

The original Agni 2 was developed in the 90’s and operationalised in the 2000’s. The Agni Prime is the latest tech advancement developed in the last 4-6 years.

 

[Paro]

i am little bit confused about the doctrinal logic behind it! india already has similar weapon right ?

It’s an upgrade to trust vectoring, much better avionics and more payload. And even canisterized.

 

[Gessler]

India successfully tests new-gen nuclear-capable 'Agni Prime' ballistic missile

The 'Agni Prime' is a two-stage canisterised solid-propellant missile with dual redundant navigation and guidance system.

www.hindustantimes.com

India on Friday morning successfully test-fired 'Agni Prime' - a new generation of ballistic missiles - from off the coast of Odisha. Defence officials said all test objectives were met and said that the third consecutive (and successful) test of the 'Agni Prime' had 'established the accuracy and reliability of the system'.

Performance was validated using data obtained by many tracking systems, including radar, telemetry and electro-optical systems, the officials said.

These systems were deployed at different locations along the flight path, including two down-range ships at the terminal point, and covered the entire trajectory, officials added.

The first test was in June last year, with the second six months later - in December. On both those occasions too the missile 'followed textbook trajectory and met all mission objectives with a high level of accuracy', officials said.

The 'Agni Prime', or 'Agni-P', is a nuclear-capable new-gen advanced variant of the Agni class of missiles; it is a two-stage canisterised missile with a maximum range of 2,000 km.

Significantly, it weighs 50 per cent less than the Agni 3 missile and has new guidance and propulsion systems. In addition, since it is canisterised, it can be launched from rail or road, be stored for longer periods and can be transported as per operational requirements.

The successful test of the 'Agni Prime' underlines India's endeavour for its defence sector to be self-reliant.

Prime minister Narendra Modi this week hailed steps taken in that regard.

"Eight years ago India was the world's biggest defence importer... but the 'new India' has shown intent and resolve to 'Make in India' the success story of our defence sector," the prime minister said while inaugurating DefExpo 2022 in Gandhinagar in poll-bound Gujarat.

I've never seen any other newly-developed Indian ballistic missile system tested with this frequency in this short a time. Something's definitely unique about this system that they're not talking about.

 

[Nilgiri]

@Nilgiri Agni p your opinions

It is updated IRBM...which is good as Agni 1 and 2 are getting older now.

So prime is Canisterized, more portable and better guidance and control.

The maneuverable re-entry vehicle is also a big feature of the system.

 

[Nilgiri]

i am little bit confused about the doctrinal logic behind it! india already has similar weapon right ?

I am unsure what you mean? It is same doctrine as having IRBMs.

It is an upgrade to current IRBMs India fields.

Similar to upgraded pressure brought to bear (on soviets) by US with pershing dev + upgrade back in the 70s/80s...when you have relatively short range theatre space nearby.

 

[iceream]

It is updated IRBM...which is good as Agni 1 and 2 are getting older now.

So prime is Canisterized, more portable and better guidance and control.

The maneuverable re-entry vehicle is also a big feature of the system.

It's a MIRV + MARV right that's what I could understand very few countries have such a system ?
We should sell some of the tech later

 

[Nilgiri]

I've never seen any other newly-developed Indian ballistic missile system tested with this frequency in this short a time. Something's definitely unique about this system that they're not talking about.

Probably most cost effective platform to test and validate lot of new technologies on that apply and scale to rest of the ballistic missile family.

India is hitting a sweet spot on maturation of lot of these technologies after prolonged development since the 1990s proving grounds of the 1st stage maturity....so Agni Prime I feel is natural to have as the platform that can be launched extensively, since it will be fielded in the largest numbers as well.

It can segue to a lot more too like anti ship ballistic missile etc...while retaining general SSM role at same time. I wonder if large VLS system for it can be fielded in a cruiser (if NGD does go more cruiser size).

 

[Zapper]

It is updated IRBM...which is good as Agni 1 and 2 are getting older now.

So prime is Canisterized, more portable and better guidance and control.

The maneuverable re-entry vehicle is also a big feature of the system.

BDL is planning to license manufacture Israeli Lora quasi ballistic missile. Can't confirm how accurate this news is but Lora (400km range, 2 ton) is in the same class our Pralay (500km range, 5 tons) but the later also has MARV

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1583411682621018112

 

[Nilgiri]

BDL is planning to license manufacture Israeli Lora quasi ballistic missile. Can't confirm how accurate this news is but Lora (400km range, 2 ton) is in the same class our Pralay (500km range, 5 tons) but the later also has MARV

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1583411682621018112

They always sign MOU easily. Have to see what actually transpires.

Israel has lot of (acquired and deployed) applied knowledge here be it the telemetry specifics (so this reduces testing time for us for example)... with even the same elements we acquired from them earlier (green pine etc). They are natural partner to keep expanding this field with (within reason).

In the end this is important to gaining more robust scope on the various trajectories that can be done with "quasi ballistic" missiles to defeat air defences and/or provide higher terminal velocities at shorter ranges.

 

[Gessler]

Analyst Prasun K. Sengupta's take on India's Rudram family of Anti-Radiation Missiles (ARMs) and their unique use-cases:

"While the Rudram-1 NG-ARM is meant for destroying X-band target engagement radars of ground-based SHORADS, the Rudram-2 NG-ARM is meant for neutralising the L-band & S-band gapfiller radars of MR-SAM systems. The Rudram-3 ARM is meant for destroying the low-band long-range airspace surveillance radars. Hence, HQ-17A-type SHORADS will be destroyed by Rudram-1, while the LY-80E LOMADS will be destroyed by Rudram-2 & LR-SAMs like HQ-9 HIMADS will be destroyed by Rudram-3."

All in all, the Rudram ARM family will cover DEAD requirements between 100-300 kms. The upper end of which (represented by Rudram-3) is broadly similar in range & kinematics to the AARGM-ER currently in development by the US.

 

[fire starter]

ALFA-A, a tube-launched (canisterised) loitering munition from New Space, has a service celing of 6 kilometer, a range of 140 km and an endurance greater than 60 minutes.

 

[fire starter]

 

[Nilgiri]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1585635010434183168

 

[Nilgiri]

I plan on submitting this for a defencehub article (for the website side at https://defencehub.com/) soon.

This is my entry to feel out this process and hope to do more later.

I welcome any input/corrections or useful additions in interim (I'll wait a few days etc).

@Gessler @Paro @Rajendra Chola @Zapper @Jackdaws @fire starter @Iceream et al.

Indian members over time may also write (out here in relevant subforum thread for review/amendment first) on some subject say you feel worthy of coverage in defence and tag me and others you want to review/amend it first etc before we submit it to website for publication. Of course with respect to your free time and interest pertaining.

Here is more info on that:

Defencehub.com site writers

Dear Forum Members, As most of you are aware, we have for sometime now, our very own Defencehub.com site up and running and it has been available to all. The site has come alive through the long and arduous endeavours of our administrative team. But it now needs creative and investigative touch...

defencehub.live

Also you can recommend to me something India defence-wise you want written up or work on together etc.

I feel especially elements that fly under the radar (mainstream news wise) can be of special interest.

Cc: @TR_123456 @Anmdt @Yasar @Mis_TR_Like et al.

(I had a look at the articles Misterlike wrote for the site to get an idea of overall approach and format etc)


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Integration of the Astra and SAAW on the Rafale
(Date, author: defencehub staff)


Amidst the recently concluded "Defexpo 2022" in India, a significant yet under-reported development materialised regarding local Indian missile platforms and the Dassault Rafale aircraft.

A memorandum of understanding (MOU) was signed between BDL (Bharat Dynamics Limited) and Dassault on the 20th of October 2022 concerning the integration onto the Rafale fighter aircraft of two significant platforms currently produced and further maturing within India.

(Insert picture here of MOU signing + credit)

The integration pertains to:

1) The Astra BVR (beyond visual range) missile. The current (mark 1) system has a range of 110 kilometres to complement its datalink and high probability kill active radar seeker. Future variants (mark 2 and mark 3) research and development are underway and will improve upon these features significantly.

(Insert picture here of ASTRA missile + credit)

2) The SAAW (Smart anti airfield weapon) munition. The current system has a circular error probable (CEP) accuracy of less than 7 metres aided by the GAGAN (GPS augmented navigation) network and its Infrared (IIR) seeker. Future variants such as the EO-SAAW are expected to improve these features significantly with CEP of < 3 metres and dual seeker with millimetre wave (MMW) imaging to complement IIR.

(Insert picture here of SAAW missile + credit)


This integration (given what this would involve in joint intellectual property sharing and trust) establishes a new phase in Indo-French defence cooperation on the Rafale platform that commenced earlier with the "Indian specific enhancements" originally implemented that have now led to missile and munition integration from Indian defence industry. This was somewhat hazy till this MOU clarified French commitment on this matter.

It is likely that in future and as a result of this development, the ASTRA, SAAW and any other further weapon integrations and enhancements can be marketed to other Rafale users. This bodes well for the Indian government's current strategic plan of "Make in India" with its goal to increase local defence production and exports. The future integration of the BrahMos-NG on the Rafale is one such possibility opened by this current integration program.

Of added benefit to both India and France would be the real time and new reference developed regarding the performance of these integrated systems with this particular Rafale combination that may hold a unique tactical dimension and its commensurate unique selling point to other Rafale customers.

(Insert picture here of Rafale + credit)

India as a relatively new entrant with high ambition in the defence export market will likely benefit by leveraging upon the French defence ecosystem in this manner given the latter's established, matured and proven networking in many markets of friendly countries that India seeks to sell to as well.

 

[fire starter]

DRDO conducts successful maiden flight-test of Phase-II Ballistic Missile Defence interceptor off Odisha coast.​

Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) conducted a successful maiden flight-test of Phase-II Ballistic Missile Defence (BMD) interceptor AD-1 missile with large kill altitude bracket from APJ Abdul Kalam Island off the coast of Odisha on November 02, 2022. The flight-test was carried out with participation of all BMD weapon system elements located at different geographical locations.

The AD-1 is a long-range interceptor missile designed for both low exo-atmospheric and endo-atmospheric interception of long-range ballistic missiles as well as aircraft. It is propelled by a two-stage solid motor and equipped with indigenously-developed advanced control system, navigation and guidance algorithm to precisely guide the vehicle to the target.

During the flight-test, all the sub-systems performed as per expectations and were validated by the data captured by a number of range sensors including Radar, Telemetry and Electro Optical Tracking stations deployed to capture the flight data.

Raksha Mantri Shri Rajnath Singh congratulated DRDO and other teams associated with successful flight trial of AD-1. He termed it as a unique type of interceptor with advanced technologies available with a very few nations in the world. He exuded confidence that it will further strengthen the country’s BMD capability to the next level.