Morrison-Joko meeting called off before Australian submarines announcement

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But dont underestimate the Anglo-sphere. Australia's future is not just about alliances but also building up a deterrent to defend the country and its interests a lot of Australians who study geopolitics also believe we cant rely on the USA forever to defend us.
So I guess we can call this new alliance Anglo Saxon alliance. Clash of the civilizations.

 
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If you like to go back in the hisotry that far, we were all Africans as well.

You cant deny that China had a imperial history.

China even believed it was the centre of the earth. Not to mention you had various vassals and tribute states.

You expanded into Xinjiang, Manchuria, Inner Mongolia, Mongolia, parts of Siberia, Tibet and various places in the Himalayas. You guys even ruled Vietnam for centuries a whopping 1000 years.

China is a big country compare the various dynasties and you reached your territorial apexes under the Tang, Ming and the Qing. China like Russia still rules a lot of land it barely lost any despite the centuries of "humilation" it did not lead to China getting colonised or knock down but it copped heavy punishments from Western Powers, Russia and Japan.

China comes from an imperial background. It want to be the one who wants to control its destiny you cant deny it.

Westerners and Europeans are the not only who want to control.
 

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Us Turks also have an imperial history both pre-islamic and post islamic.

Nothing wrong to be honest.

You either conquer or be conquered.
 

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You cant deny that China had a imperial history.

China even believed it was the centre of the earth. Not to mention you had various vassals and tribute states.

You expanded into Xinjiang, Manchuria, Inner Mongolia, Mongolia, parts of Siberia, Tibet and various places in the Himalayas. You guys even ruled Vietnam for centuries a whopping 1000 years.

China is a big country compare the various dynasties and you reached your territorial apexes under the Tang, Ming and the Qing. China like Russia still rules a lot of land it barely lost any despite the centuries of "humilation" it did not lead to China getting colonised or knock down but it copped heavy punishments from Western Powers, Russia and Japan.

China comes from an imperial background. It want to be the one who wants to control its destiny you cant deny it.

Westerners and Europeans are the not only who want to control.
China expanded mostly through the spread of the Chinese civilization, not wars of quest. Some nomadic dynasties helped China to greatly enlarge her territories but they were minority dynasties, didn't typically represent China's hardcore values and psyche.
 

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