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That makes sense. I wasn't talking about selling it to NATO anyway but more like "we are developing NATO capability" sense. Like Kara Atmaca and Aselsan radar deal announcement.

Do we gain anything from funding this or just brownie points?
Just shows commitment also we will most likely provide only a small portion as we have our own fleet and are not relying on nato capability. Those deals with kara atmace and aselsan are not nato deals as far as i know just our own contracts to show investments. Doubtful the french or greeks would buy a turkish missile even if it is produced under license by diehl. But anything is possible i guess.
 

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I really didn't think anything serious would happen with regard to the F-35 but after seeing Lindsey's comments (who for some reason is in Ankara) it seems something is actually happening behind the scenes.
I mean lindsey graham is not as bad as people think if our officials would stop talking bullshit all the time our overall relation with us would somewhat improve. I remember him defending us because of us support for the pkk
 

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I mean lindsey graham is not as bad as people think if our officials would stop talking bullshit all the time our overall relation with us would somewhat improve. I remember him defending us because of us support for the pkk
Graham for years have been called a friend or an enemy of Turkey with intervals every 2 years. You can almost get a bearing on Turkish / American state establishment relations by Graham's comments.
 

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Trump lands in Turkey for NATO summit, where he is expected to signal that he is willing to sell the country F-35 fighter jets. Follow live updates. https://cnn.it/4gqdyTs
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NATO’s regional defence plans divide Europe into three operational fronts, but the emerging architecture exposes issues in command, rear-area sustainment and the availability of enabling forces required to turn headquarters into warfighting formations.


Ahead of the NATO Summit in Ankara, read the full analysis by Ruben Stewart (@2eatsoup): go.iiss.org/4aBYYEH.
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Trump: "Europe needs be careful with two things, energy and immigration. If they're not carful of those two things, you're not going to have a Europe anymore"
 

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Trump on US/Israel war on Iran:

"Türkiye has been a great ally for us. They could have gotten into the fight on the other side. They are very powerful, but they didn't do that. Maybe they didn't do that because of me."
 

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Congressional approval is not needed to lift CAATSA. This matter is under the White House initiative, and they will notify once they confirm that the necessary arrangements have been made. So, once the technical work is complete, the process can move very quickly if the Trump administration wants it. This issue shows that a huge obstacle is being removed, not only in the context of the F-35, but also in potential areas of trade and technical cooperation in many other areas in future.

We can say that there are no obstacles left for the F-35s. The next step will be negotiations regarding the industrial re-participation of Turkish companies.

Furthermore, it is evident that there is a high-level state opinion that the acquisition of F-35s by the Turkish Air Force is of paramount importance, especially for NATO's eastern flank. The Turkish Air Force is one of the air forces that can most effectively utilize these aircraft in a corridor extending to Baltic air control. For the Turkish state, being the second largest military contingent in NATO is not just a matter of quantity, but also a matter of will and commitment.
 

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Trump on US/Israel war on Iran:

"Türkiye has been a great ally for us. They could have gotten into the fight on the other side. They are very powerful, but they didn't do that. Maybe they didn't do that because of me."
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"Maybe they didn't do that because of me."

Why on earth would Turkey help Iran? 😂
 

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The amusing part is that this is a cold shower for the Israeli politics. The recent struggles of the Israeli state have actually benefited both leaders. Also, the hasty Armenian resolution strained Israeli-Azerbaijan relations. The situation became so pathetic that, while Trump was en route to Ankara, Netanyahu appeared on the news channel Trump watches (FOX news), and recounted what he had said – or not said – to the American right-wing audience, hoping Trump would watch.

The rapid recovery in Turkish-US relations also gives the impression that a new Middle East, Eastern Mediterranean-Gulf security concept is gradually maturing in a broader perspective. My impression is that, from the Trump perspective, Türkiye is seen as the natural link between NATO's Europe and the allied Arabian Peninsula (In other words, it is seen as a node.) and the only actor that can balance Israel.

The U.S. urgently needs to shift its focus to the Asia-Pacific region, but Israeli ambitions have long undermined U.S.'s ultimate global interests. Israel will remain the United States' most dear ally, but its willingness to wage war with anyone and everyone needs to be tempered in order to limit the damage it can inflict on U.S. global interests. Trump knows that, contrary to the propaganda of the Israeli lobby, Türkiye has no intention of creating tension with Israel that would lead to war. But he must also be aware of how can Turkiye is try to contain and restrict Israel within its own sphere of influence. In this context, Trump's emphasis on Syrian President al-Sharaa on press should also be considered significant.
 

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We can say that there are no obstacles left for the F-35s. The next step will be negotiations regarding the industrial re-participation of Turkish companies.
Heard this everywhere but do we? Do we really need to or should we really wish to return to program after being left ten years behind? Especially, after Israel unofficially but practically started calling the calls on the program through congress and government.
Taking our six aircraft (or five?) and gain the 5th gen experience, know how is one thing but even partially rechanneling our industrial efforts and resources to F-35 program?
I’m not totally against it but somehow skeptical so, not very sure.
 

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Heard this everywhere but do we? Do we really need to or should we really wish to return to program after being left ten years behind? Especially, after Israel unofficially but practically started calling the calls on the program through congress and government.
Taking our six aircraft (or five?) and gain the 5th gen experience, know how is one thing but even partially rechanneling our industrial efforts and resources to F-35 program?
I’m not totally against it but somehow skeptical so, not very sure.
I see a possible participation in the F-35 program more like a door to other possible programs in the future.
 
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