TR Naval Programs

[Cabatli_TR]

8500 ton displacement destroyer with 2x32 cell national VLS equipped with Hisar-Rf and Siper missiles having a range scale up to 150+km.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1460214073803649026

 

[Anmdt]

STM-500 is being built for Turkish Navy

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1460215422675034118

STM 500 Küçük Boyutlu Denizaltı’nın İnşa Faaliyetlerine 2022 Yılında Başlamayı Hedefliyor

www.defenceturkey.com

@IbrahimSunnetci reports the project is funded by STM and there is no customer yet (or in my opinion, not disclosed).

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Info about Barbaros MLU is coming @Defence Turkey

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1460230233173504002

 

[Cabatli_TR]

16 cell Hisar based VLS solution for Milgem

 

[Anmdt]

16 cell Hisar based VLS solution for Milgem

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EDAS with cold launch would be much better in there i think, that is just next to engine intakes.

Tubitak's EDAS should be funded along MIDLAS of Roketsan, both will have their own unique applications.
With EDAS: no risks on throwing rocket exhaust into gas turbine air intakes
no need to make cuts through deck and an exhaust system.

 

[RaptorF22]

16 cell Hisar based VLS solution for Milgem

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Will it be integrated into existing Milgem or future ships ?

 

[AWP]

16 cell Hisar based VLS solution for Milgem

this could be the most important thing from that presentation . what I think is the future plane or new configuration for Istanbul class will be 16 vls infront - 16 vls back next to the intakes .

 

[Manomed]

16 cell Hisar based VLS solution for Milgem

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which ship

 

[TheInsider]

16 cell Hisar based VLS solution for Milgem

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This is smart. Penetration to the deck is minimal. 16x VLS is a good capability. A possible Milgem modernization with Hisar missiles and Nazar laser hardkill system will add real depth to those ships and I class can possibly have 32x VLS. 16x VLS for Hisar missiles and 16x Midlas VLS for a combination of Hisar and Siper missiles. This way I class can become a light AAW frigate.

 

[Manomed]

This is smart. Penetration to the deck is minimal. 16x VLS is a good capability. A possible Milgem modernization will add real depth to those ships and I class can possibly have 32x VLS. 16x VLS for Hisar missiles and 16x Midlas VLS for a combination of Hisar and Siper missiles.

Isn't x32 basically Destroyer level?

 

[Anmdt]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1460229245536505870

Who is anmdt after all, just a peasant . Ibrahim Sunnetci's information about deliveries of the Reis class.

Translation:
The delays on deliveries are linked to covid and export licenses, and related to only some parts. There is no open embargo or there isn't any major delays in the progress.

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1460229245536505870

Who is anmdt after all, just a peasant . Ibrahim Sunnetci's information about deliveries of the Reis class.

Translation:
The delays on deliveries are linked to covid and export licenses, and related to only some parts. There is no open embargo or there isn't any major delays in the progress.

I'd take your word over anyone elses anyday

 

[Cabatli_TR]

According to the Naval Forces' Planning, MİDLAS will be able to use a total of 64 (16x4) ESSM Block 2 or 16 HİSAR or HİSAR + ESSM Block 2 Mixed settlements as quadpacks.

Since MIDLAS is a national launcher, ESSM integration requires an "umbilical port" (the connection system called the umbilical cord between the missile and the launcher). ROKETSAN has started to work on the development of an umbilical port-like system required for ESSM integration for MIDLAS as well.

Özel Haber: Barbaros YÖM Kapsamında Gökdeniz Sisteminin Phalanx CIWS ile Değiştirilmesi Gündemde

Ankara’da düzenlenen 10’uncu Deniz Sistemleri Seminerinde BARBAROS Sınıfı Yarı Ömür Modernizasyonu (YÖM) ile ilgili çarpıcı yeni bilgiler edinme fırsatı bulduk. Barbaros YÖM kapsamında modernize edilecek birinci gemi TCG Oruçreis (F-245) fırkateyninde GÖKDENİZ Yakın Hava Savunma Sistemi’ne...

www.defenceturkey.com

 

[Spook]

STM-500 is the most ideal class size for coastal areas such as Adalar Denizi and Cyprus. - Kozan S. Erkan

 

[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1460229245536505870

Who is anmdt after all, just a peasant . Ibrahim Sunnetci's information about deliveries of the Reis class.

Translation:
The delays on deliveries are linked to covid and export licenses, and related to only some parts. There is no open embargo or there isn't any major delays in the progress.

Reis project was always gonna be finished. Germany will try everything to delay it but in the end we will get our 6 Subs after which Turkeys Business relationship with Germany at least for major platforms will end. Maybe we can see it continue for smaller parts in the future. But for now after Reis that will be it.

Germany has no interest to incur the punishments that would come with cancellation of the project while it nears the end. Neither can TKMS can survive such a move.

People need to think rational and logical. I hate this panic mode our experts go into every other month about some project.

Cancelling a billions dollar worth contract isn’t that easy.

 

[Jacop]

If the turks can produce mini submarines, they can have tb2 of the seas.

 

[Khagan1923]

According to the Naval Forces' Planning, MİDLAS will be able to use a total of 64 (16x4) ESSM Block 2 or 16 HİSAR or HİSAR + ESSM Block 2 Mixed settlements as quadpacks.

Since MIDLAS is a national launcher, ESSM integration requires an "umbilical port" (the connection system called the umbilical cord between the missile and the launcher). ROKETSAN has started to work on the development of an umbilical port-like system required for ESSM integration for MIDLAS as well.

Özel Haber: Barbaros YÖM Kapsamında Gökdeniz Sisteminin Phalanx CIWS ile Değiştirilmesi Gündemde

Ankara’da düzenlenen 10’uncu Deniz Sistemleri Seminerinde BARBAROS Sınıfı Yarı Ömür Modernizasyonu (YÖM) ile ilgili çarpıcı yeni bilgiler edinme fırsatı bulduk. Barbaros YÖM kapsamında modernize edilecek birinci gemi TCG Oruçreis (F-245) fırkateyninde GÖKDENİZ Yakın Hava Savunma Sistemi’ne...

www.defenceturkey.com

If this is true it would be incredible that the US gave permission for ESSM to be integrated into MIDLAS. As a short term solution until our own products are ready it would be greats. Especially Block 2 which is very advanced.

 

[Combat-Master]

STM 500 Küçük Boyutlu Denizaltı’nın İnşa Faaliyetlerine 2022 Yılında Başlamayı Hedefliyor

www.defenceturkey.com

@IbrahimSunnetci reports the project is funded by STM and there is no customer yet (or in my opinion, not disclosed).

Now one of the reputable Twitter posters is saying that it may be a Black Sea customer...

 

[Saithan]

Now one of the reputable Twitter posters is saying that it may be a Black Sea customer...

I don't think that's realistic. TAF or PN is my guess

 

[Oublious]

How many STM500 will be delivered to the navy?