TR Naval Programs

[Oublious]

Kozan Selcuk Erkan boss have spoken againg. Really important figure to learn about Naval defence related subjects.

 

[Brave Janissary]

Akhisar class look fully equipped.

Actually it looks like a good cheap general purpose warship for low profile countries. It could be great export tandem with stm-500 submarine. Also maritime ucavs could be great MPA alternatives for low countries. Packed export solutions could increase our naval export potentional.

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On the other hand we all know ada class is asw corvette / patrol ship but we use it a little bit like asw/asuw general purpose ship due the lack of modern ship etc.

Four of our ten akhisar class fully equipped ships could be great fleet asw corvettes. With help of that we can add a Siper Blok 1 or O+ to ada class milgem and use them like asw/asuw general purpose ships.

Fully Equipped Akhisar class could be good small asw fleet corvette's with his yakamoz hms sonar, hızır lfas vds sonar, orka-a torpedos and asw helicopter.

That gives us good 16 shipped core milgem based fleet until pre-tf-2000 area until 4+ tf-2000 destroyer comes.

4x İstif class Light AAW ( 10xSiper Blok 1 + 24x Essm)
4x BARBAROS MLU ASUW frigate (Also 16 x vls capable 2 barbaros can support İstif's with the Siper Blok 1's on the fleet condition)
4x Milgem-Hisar Equipped ASUW frigate
4x Akhisar Class ASW Corvette

4-8-4 AAW-ASUW-ASW

Possible Tcg Anadolu Mission Force

1x İstif Class [16x Atmaca (8x Anti Ship and 8x Land Capable) + 10x Siper Blok 1 (70-100 Km Ranged) +24x Essm + Phalanx or Gökdeniz Ciws + 4x Orka-a]+ Cenk-S Aesa Radar
2x Barbaros Class [16x Atmaca (8x Anti Ship and 8x Land Capable) + 8x Siper Blok 1 (70-100 Km Ranged) +32x Essm + Phalanx Gökdeniz Ciws + 4x Orka-a] Smart-S mk2 s band + Mar-D x band
1x Akhisar ASW Corvette [ 4x Atmaca + 8x Hisar Sam + Gökdeniz Ciws + 4x Orka-A and maybe in the future 4x local vl-asroc behalf of front umtas launcher for only in this akhisar sub-asw corvette class )- Mar-d X band

total long range air defence missile in the Mission Force :

26x Siper Blok-1
96x Essm/Hisar
24x Atmaca Land Attack or Çakır

So,they can be used to protect the TCG Anadolu until the TF 2000 is ready.

Also our naval age will be decrease with help of that.

 

[Anmdt]

Two projects are loading nicely and so far smoothly, according to the schedule.

HATS - Helicopter Arrest and Traverse System (ASIST equilavent)
NSSAF - National Ship Survivability Analysis Framework (In replacement of a western origin framework, software that no more meets the demand of the TN, thus a new model allowing more customization per region and advanced details is in progress of development)

HATS current, possible orders;
4 I-Class.
1 Dimdeg ( possible )
10 AKDG ( possible, with dual feature of handling S-UAV, in Turkish G-IHA, and Helicopters)
- TF-2000.

+ Some possible exports on platforms that are exported

NSSAF is named as GEMED officially by STM. Just a teaser of what the final framework will be capable of;

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1516435058747482114

Ship Combat Efficiency and Assessment Model - Framework, will enable simulation&analysis of decision-making mechanism for strategy-tactics development, assisting ship design and modernization processes.

 

[Anmdt]

Construction of the Second OPV for the Turkish Navy will commence in August 2022.

Conceptual design of the MILDEN (National Submarine) was completed by MILDEN DPO (Design Project Office) and submitted to the Turkish Navy in October, 2021.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr Erdoğan: "As a country surrounded by seas on three sides, Having a strong naval force is not an option but a necessity. We will continue to work with determination until we become the strongest navy in the region and the world with the new ships we build, the submarines and the weapon systems we develop for our ships.”

 

[Heartbang]

Mr Erdoğan: "As a country surrounded by seas on three sides, Having a strong naval force is not an option but a necessity. We will continue to work with determination until we become the strongest navy in the region and the world with the new ships we build, the submarines and the weapon systems we develop for our ships.”

good statements to hear. in my opinion we need triple the navy. since we're "surrounded by seas on three sides."

 

[Combat-Master]

Multi Purpose Attack Craft STM MPAC

 

[Saithan]

Construction of the Second OPV for the Turkish Navy will commence in August 2022.

Conceptual design of the MILDEN (National Submarine) was completed by MILDEN DPO (Design Project Office) and submitted to the Turkish Navy in October, 2021.

Those are good news, but I feel that we need more developed and bigger smart buoy network to really manifest our presence in mavi vatan. TCG area of operation needs to be expanded under the guise of helping vessels in Mavi Vatan.

 

[Test7]

 

[Test7]

@Anmdt @Cabatli_53 @Combat-Master

They don't look like command boat

 

[Anmdt]

Multi Purpose Attack Craft STM MPAC
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%90-95 of what TTHB is in terms of layout and shape, appearance.

%60-65 of what TTHB is in terms of the capabilities.

@Anmdt @Cabatli_53 @Combat-Master

They don't look like command boat

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Could be the RHIBs? I can't happen to see a reference to acquire its length but if it is 5.5 or 7.5-8 meters then it is the RHIB.

RHIBs are the likely candidate i don't remember that shipping of the USVs for have taken place, yet.

 

[Huelague]

Can we add more weapons to YTKB, at least they have the space?

 

[Anmdt]

Can we add more weapons to YTKB, at least they have the space?

It has sufficient growth space.
For example see Serhet Class of Turkmenistan.

Will be easily upgraded with 2 x Yalman, ,Mar-D MkII (Advanced MAR-D), additional E/O (400D, Kuzgun or Ahtapot) Cakir when needed. Do they need an extensive upgrade with current operational status, especially after the OPVs are to be delivered? I doubt.
2x Yalman with Sungur + cost effective MAR-D MkII would do the work for aerial and anti-surface defences.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

ULAQ? Other iDA?

 

[Hexciter]

 

[Brave Janissary]

Mar-d Mk 2 ?

On the other hand looks like there is a lightweight torpedo launcher bay

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr Demir: "We will add new capabilities to our gunboats"

 

[TheInsider]

Mr Demir: "We will add new capabilities to our gunboats"

He is probably talking about the mid-life modernization of Kılıç class FACs.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr. Demir: "Work continues for the deployment of Hürjet (to the LHD platforms)"

 

[Hexciter]