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I think it is the weight of a missile.
They also gave the diameter(128mm) of missile.
No, it is derived from sungur. There is no way a single missile would be that heavy.
 

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I guess clarification is necessary. As it seems a number of information has been mixed together
 

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No, it is derived from sungur. There is no way a single missile would be that heavy.
Sungur is equivalent of Mistral which diameter is 90mm .
128mm diameter proves the missile will be longer larger and have heavier warhead.

I think Levent is the missile which is equivalent of Sidewinder.
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Will Milden have VLS capability?

It will have two kinds of VLS. This was the mind-blowing fact i hinted earlier.

The VLS will be adaptive payload module where non-missile systems maybe carried and deployed. Primarily made to fit the Gezgin and other CMs later BMs and other non-missile systems like smart sensors.

The other VLS better remain secret for now as i couldn't notice it on the drawings.
 

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It will have two kinds of VLS. This was the mind-blowing fact i hinted earlier.

The VLS will be adaptive payload module where non-missile systems maybe carried and deployed. Primarily made to fit the Gezgin and other CMs later BMs and other non-missile systems like smart sensors.

The other VLS better remain secret for now as i couldn't notice it on the drawings.
Then it wouldn’t be difficult to imagine something around 3000 tons or even larger maybe?
 

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It will have two kinds of VLS. This was the mind-blowing fact i hinted earlier.

The VLS will be adaptive payload module where non-missile systems maybe carried and deployed. Primarily made to fit the Gezgin and other CMs later BMs and other non-missile systems like smart sensors.

The other VLS better remain secret for now as i couldn't notice it on the drawings.

Where do you see the VLS on the drawing?
 

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Where do you see the VLS on the drawing?

It's the one in red

The one in green is for the special force delivery system . Some submarines have this delivery system but in VLS position . I think it's unlikely for the Milden project .

My opinion is based on comparing pictures of different submarine diagrams . so I might be wrong about the VLS

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It is actually an adaptive payload module. Not conventional VLS.
I think this single one probably could hold 3/4 gezgin cruise missile.
 
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It is actually an adaptive payload module. Not conventional VLS.
I think this single probably could hold 3/4 gezgin cruise missile.


You mean a modular VLS for different type of missiles ?

At the end it will lead to the same end . But I hope what you say is right since it will give the navy more options than Gezgin missile
 

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You mean a modular VLS for different type of missiles ?

At the end it will lead to the same end . But I hope what you say is right since it will give the navy more options than Gezgin missile

It will have two kinds of VLS. This was the mind-blowing fact i hinted earlier.

The VLS will be adaptive payload module where non-missile systems maybe carried and deployed. Primarily made to fit the Gezgin and other CMs later BMs and other non-missile systems like smart sensors.

The other VLS better remain secret for now as i couldn't notice it on the drawings.
 

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It's the one in red

The one in green is for the special force delivery system . Some submarines have this delivery system but in VLS position . I think it's unlikely for the Milden project .

My opinion is based on comparing pictures of different submarine diagrams . so I might be wrong about the VLS

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It was suggested (it was early last year I guess) that the Dearsan project, L 33, was to be fitted with special service delivery vehicle rather than Milden and STM500.
is the L 33 project still going, that I don’t know 🤷‍♂️
 

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More than 3/4.
Ohio Class SSBN or Virginia block V SSN's modules can hold 7 tomahawk each.
Do you think this module on Milden can hold similar payload?
 
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Now think possible scenarios about Milden. While hiding in the depths of waters in an unknown position, Milden can attack enemy elements with Akya Blk-1/2 torpedoes and/or Milden can also launch Sub-Atmaca Blk2 to surface ships/ports. Against helicopters or aircrafts that is flying to detect submarine, Milden can fire Hisar-Derin missile as well. When necessary, She can strike on deepest part of enemy land with Sub-Gezgin missiles. While doing all this, she will continue to hide under the water and cant even be detected. The elements used to strike enemy by Milden is very wide but It is a platform that is very difficult to destroy. There will be many reasons for enemy to worry about. It will provide enormous deterrence when joined into inventory.
 

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Against helicopters or aircrafts that is flying to detect submarine, Milden can fire Hisar-Derin missile as well.
Wasnt the Hisar-Derin project in jeopardy? i remember hearing something like that on Kaner Kurt's Q&A broadcasts.

any info, @Anmdt ?
 

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