TR Navy Naval Programs

[TheInsider]

I don't want anything lighter than 5000t. The light TF-2000 should be between 5000-6000t closer to the latter. It should not be a heavy frigate; it should be a light destroyer. Parameters like endurance, VLS count should be closer to a destroyer rather than a frigate. After a corvette-sized FAC, another mistake shouldn't be made by building a frigate-sized destroyer.

 

[Huelague]

So my guess would be for the next 10-15 years the navy will introduce/have based on my realistic expectation and news
8 Istif
4 TF2000
4-6 TF2000 Flight 2 (Medium frigate) still rough speculation
4 Modernized Meko 200TN track 2 (barbaros)
8-10 Hisar ADKG configuration still unknown (light/medium/heavy) probably split between ships from just a light opv to a light frigate
6-10 TTHB Numbers still uncertain
1-2 LHD still some uncertainty if we'll get a second LHD
1 Mügem
(2 LPD) need is there but still a rough guess(my wish)
6 Reis
6 Milden Maybe more but 6 is secure
1 Nükden maybe towards the end of 2038
plus a dozen other support vessels from small to large

@Anmdt
How many TF-2000 do we need, to cover our LHDs, LPDs and our whole coasts?

 

[TheInsider]

@Anmdt
How many TF-2000 do we need, to cover our LHDs, LPDs and our whole coasts?

At least 8. Don't forget there will also be a MUGEM and maybe a drone mothership. I'm ok with 4 TF2000+4 light TF-2000.

 

[Quasar]

I think BARBAROS-Class Frigates Mid-Life Upgrade is almost as important as İSTİF class.... until we come up with a quad packed SAM, I would not expect a light TF 2000.... For me a light TF 2000 is what ISTİF should have been at first place .... but circumstances.... we will have 8 İSTİF class as it is.

-our designs, our components, our ship yards so everything is possible as long as there is a budget and a need...

 

[boredaf]

@Anmdt
How many TF-2000 do we need, to cover our LHDs, LPDs and our whole coasts?

Yanks have 2 anti-air destroyers in their carrier group, Royal Navy has 1, from a little bit of googling it looks like French has 1 or 2 and Chinese plan to have 2. However, I should point out that Royal Navy usually have ships from other countries accompany their carriers almost all the time they are deployed. Since we can't truly rely on others to help us, we need at least 2 destroyers per carrier (be it a drone carrier or a proper one), imo. On top of that, we need 1 or 2 frigates for anti-submarine duties to accompany them.

 

[zio]

I think BARBAROS-Class Frigates Mid-Life Upgrade is almost as important as İSTİF class.... until we come up with a quad packed SAM, I would not expect a light TF 2000.... For me a light TF 2000 is what ISTİF should have been at first place .... but circumstances.... we will have 8 İSTİF class as it is.

-our designs, our components, our ship yards so everything is possible as long as there is a budget and a need...

Barbaros YÖM ships have pesa radar makes it vulnurable to ECM attacks,two short range aesa radar cannot close the gap,also have less SSMissiles some of them outdated harpoon type,two ship have 8 cell,no ESSM blk 2 missiles,extra 20mm CIWS does notmake more sense,and less ECM antennas,so istif class is better than these ships.

 

[uçuyorum]

Barbaros YÖM ships have pesa radar makes it vulnurable to ECM attacks,two short range aesa radar cannot close the gap,also have less SSMissiles some of them outdated harpoon type,two ship have 8 cell,no ESSM blk 2 missiles,extra 20mm CIWS does notmake more sense,and less ECM antennas,so istif class is better than these ships.

Few corrections. That pesa radar is also multi transmit receive so it's a relatively modern pesa. The two x bands are there to close that gap literally. The modernization adds extra atmaca launchers 12 or 16 total. Essm block 2 have been delivered quietly recently.

 

[Anmdt]

@Anmdt
How many TF-2000 do we need, to cover our LHDs, LPDs and our whole coasts?

Considering overhaul & maintenance schedules, overseas deployments (Libya, Somalia, Qatar) there will be minimum of 4 TF-2000, 4 TF2000+, 6-8 TF2000 light. I-Class or ADKGs can't keep up with AC flotilla duties. There will be at least 2 TF-2000 light, 1 TF2000+ and 1 TF2000 per flotilla.

 

[Huelague]

anti-air destroyers

Lets hope not.