TR Naval Programs

[Yasar_TR]

BARBAROS MID-LIFE UPGRADE
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This is an upgrade that will put these ships in a different league. Not just weapons and sensors/radars upgrade but a structural upgrade as well. Shape is becoming more stealthy. They are the fastest ships of the fleet. Unfortunately the upgrade was postponed due to need of ships of this caliber in the Eastern Mediterranean. I hope they start it ASAP.

 

[Siper>MMU]

This is an upgrade that will put these ships in a different league. Not just weapons and sensors/radars upgrade but a structural upgrade as well. Shape is becoming more stealthy. They are the fastest ships of the fleet. Unfortunately the upgrade was postponed due to need of ships of this caliber in the Eastern Mediterranean. I hope they start it ASAP.

It seems like they are changing the shape but no. Just the mast will change. Other parts are same, that CGI has bad colors.

 

[Yasar_TR]

It seems like they are changing the shape but no. Just the mast will change. Other parts are same, that CGI has bad colors.

There appears to be serious alterations and additions on the front of the ship. It is as if it not just a CGI problem!
But having read the modernisation in detail, you are correct. There does not seem to be a structural alteration planned. It is mainly radars, sensors and indigenous weapons systems that will be added.
These additions however, are very extensive it will probably make this ship the most heavily weaponised ship of the fleet.

Barbaros Sınıfı Fırkateyn Yarı Ömür Modernizasyonu Projesi Üzerine Notlar

Uzun bir süredir devam eden Barbaros Sınıfı Fırkateyn Yarı Ömür Modernizasyonu Projesi ile Deniz Kuvvetleri Komutanlığı envanterinde kayıtlı 4 adet

www.defenceturk.net

 

[Combat-Master]

Any idea as to what this could be? Looks like it's on both sides of the ship

 

[Siper>MMU]

Any idea as to what this could be? Looks like it's on both sides of the ship
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Umtas and cirit launcher

 

[Combat-Master]

Umtas and cirit launcher

Would the launcher be able to launch SUNGUR aswell ?

 

[Yasar_TR]

Any idea as to what this could be? Looks like it's on both sides of the ship
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In the article I shared here it says it is an Umtas/LUmtas launcher. But more likely to be a “Yalman” mast. But the article also states that if a longer range missile is produced as per Seahawk needs (penguin replacement) these could be altered to house those.

 

[Combat-Master]

In the article I shared here it says it is an Umtas/LUmtas launcher. But more likely to be a “Yalman” mast. But the article also states that if a longer range missile is produced as per Seahawk needs (penguin replacement) these could be altered to house those.

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It would be excellent if Sungur could be launched from them. (Presuming Sungur has surface to air and surface to surface capability as Stinger & LMM missiles do) That would give the vessel point defence capability from both air/surface threat types...

 

[Anmdt]

ULAQ ASW

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1385579576630337539

This is the 3rd ASW model, i think there is an application difference between earlier two and this new one.

 

[Yasar_TR]

ULAQ karadan kontrol edilebilecek

Antalya'da özel bir firmanın ocak ayında denize indirdiği Türkiye'nin ilk silahlı insansız deniz aracı ULAQ'ın şimdi de kontrol ünitesi tamamlandı

www.savunmasanayiidergilik.com

ULAQ coastal control unit is ready for trials. From a land position (probably high up) the SIKA unit will be able to control ULAQ boats from 200km away.

 

[Anmdt]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1384812471245021185

As expected, Amphibious group is being trained with joint air-naval operations in preperations for TCG Anadolu.

 

[Anmdt]

A few more vessels will be procured in near - future.
2 Ocean-going multi-purpose tugs; a few candidates:
By Desan &AMT

By TAIS:

By Istanbul Shipyard, offering a MPT based on RATSHIP.

At least one, Ocean-going hydro graphic vessel; two candidates i have came across.
By Dearsan

By TAIS, (Istanbul Shipyard), based on RATSHIP.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr Varank visited ongoing ITU KAT large cavitation tunnel investment. Aselsan is supporting the program.

 

[Anmdt]

Mr Varank visited ongoing ITU KAT large cavitation tunnel investment. Aselsan is supporting the program.

SSB and ADIK (through TKY of LSTs) are funding the project, i am unsure if Aselsan has any involvement in there.
First customer will be Roketsan, first year is almost booked (unconfirmed projects book the tunnel up to 3 years).
The tunnel is ready to run since last year, they have been setting measurement devices and offices within the building.

I have tried to cover it here:
the tunnel was also visited by Ismail Demir a month ago and by Varank 2 weeks ago.

ITU Large Cavitation Tunnel:

Project has been funded by SSB, designed by Polish CTO under supervision of disclosed Turkish professor, produced by Turkish Gürdesan and locaed in Istanbul Technical University. Expected to be operational by 2021.
The cavitation, unlike as it is seen in pictures, doesn't only consist of the tunnel but also model production facilities and offices as shown within a building.
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Image credits to ITU.

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Image credits to http://alarga.uskudar.biz/kemere/anzilha.html

 

[Cabatli_TR]

SSB and ADIK (through tersane katki payi of LSTs) are funding the project, i am unsure if Aselsan has any involvement in there.
First customer will be Roketsan, first year is almost booked.
The tunnel is ready to run since last year, they have been setting measurement devices and offices within the building.

It was stated in AA article bro.

 

[Anmdt]

It was stated in AA article bro.

They may have mixed that up then bro i am %100 sure Aselsan is not involved in this. They have quoted it from prof. unal, i am also sure he is in the project for 10+ years since the beginning he won't mix it up,probably a newsmaker has tried to wrap the interview and he took some parts and combined those together.

Aselsan supports Dikons (dynamic positioning&maneuvering) from Barbaros MLU.

Katmansis is being funded by Adik's share project dates back to 2009. "Kat" is for cavitation tunnel, "man" is for maneuvering test systems of two separate test components, one installed on the towing tank another is to be done by USV (free-running) based maneuvering test system on an open water basin.

In brochures of the tunnel you may see ADIK's name along with SSB, Gurdesan (as manufacturer) , Polish CTO (as designer)
Such as in here: SSB & ADIK is funder, ITU NOVA is representative for academicians from ITU, Gürdesan is the manufacturer.

Also can be seen here, katmansis funded by LST's TKY:

 

[Nutuk]

Cavitation tunnels for universities is nothing special. I myself was part of a team building a similar water tunnel at the Dutch University of Twente

 

[what]

What is that good for?

 

[Nutuk]

Do you know "tribology" ?

It's a science and engineering of interacting surfaces in relative motion. It includes the study and application of the principles of friction, lubrication, and wear.

Like air friction you have also water friction. At the Dutch university they were researching for instance air bubbles in water that reduced the water friction. Less friction of ships in water means saving on fuel, especially for those huge bulk tankers. They were looking for ways to induce air bubbles in front of the ship to decrease friction and to save several percentages on fuel consumption.

This cavitation tunnel is a water loop, big pumps cause the water flow in the loop tunnel. In that tunnel you had parts to insert air into the water, creating air bubbles and there were 2 parts with multiple counter rotating rods with metal triangular fins (actually all rods could be programmed individually in rotation direction and rotating speed) to cause all type of water swirls to simulate different levels of water friction.

It's comparable with a wind tunnel but than for water

 

[what]

I guess these tunnels are not big enough for entire ships but models and parts?