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Pakistan conducted a successful flight test of the Ababeel Weapon System on October 18. — Photo courtesy Radio Pakistan


In a statement, the Inter-Service Public Relations (ISPR) said, “Pakistan today conducted a successful flight test of Ababeel Weapon System. The test flight was aimed at re-validating various design, technical parameters and performance evaluation of different sub-systems of the weapon system.”


The launch was witnessed by Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee General Sahir Shamshad Mirza, senior officers from the Strategic Plans Divison and Strategic Forces Command as well as scientists and engineers from Strategic Organisations.




The ISPR said the missile system was “aimed at strengthening deterrence and enhancing strategic stability in the region through the operationalisation of Full Spectrum Deterrence in the overall construct of Credible Minimum Deterrence”.

On the occasion, the CJCSC appreciated the technical prowess, dedication and commitment of all those who contributed towards the successful test, the statement said.

It further stated that President Dr Arif Alvi, caretaker Prime Minister Anwaarul Haq Kkar and the services chiefs congratulated all members of the Strategic Forces on the achievement.



Sometimes i just forget Subcontinent is still locked into a nuclear arms race. Anyway, I guess it is a big deal for Pak Strategic Force Command.
It is important to note, Ababeel is Pakistan's first and only MIRV (3x 500kg warheads) capable Strategic nuclear weapon delivery system.

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"The missile has a length of 21.5 meters and a diameter of 1.7 meters and is designed to carry both conventional and nuclear warheads. It has multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles (MIRV), demonstrating South Asia’s first MIRV payload. It has a maximum range of 2,200 kilometres (1,400 mi). As such, it would be Pakistan's first missile with this capability. It can carry total 1,500 kg ( 3,307 lb) warhead , which consists of three standard warheads of 500 kg ( 1102.3 lb) each or 5 of 300 kg ( 661.4 lb) or 8 maximum Warheads weighing 185 kg (408 lb)"




They first test fired it in 2017.


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On a side note-

@Nilgiri Do you think India's advance in ABM technology (AD-1 and AD-2) could potentially upset the strategic balance between two countries in the future and compromise the assurance of mutual destruction?
 

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On a side note-

@Nilgiri Do you think India's advance in ABM technology (AD-1 and AD-2) could potentially upset the strategic balance between two countries in the future and compromise the assurance of mutual destruction?

Yes. It has already been upset. It will only grow as the GDP ratio between the two gets larger.
 

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Yes. It has already been upset. It will only grow as the GDP ratio between the two gets larger.

That early? AD-1 and AD-2 are not operationally inducted yet.
I mean, even AAD and PDV MK2 is not operational yet. (If I am not mistaken)
 

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That early? AD-1 and AD-2 are not operationally inducted yet.
I mean, even AAD and PDV MK2 is not operational yet. (If I am not mistaken)
Check Khoha in Alwar district in google earth.
 

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That early? AD-1 and AD-2 are not operationally inducted yet.
I mean, even AAD and PDV MK2 is not operational yet. (If I am not mistaken)

I am talking about what should have been quite apparent to Pakistan's establishment regarding the green pine acquisition and swordfish production....and putting two and two together regarding India's economy trajectory even back then.

Rather than smug insular echo chamber exceptionalism that has festered and rotted their already anti-intellectual psyche.

These were big disruptions starting and their establishment picked every fork in the road that has hemmed them into where they are now instead....while India will continue to expand into economies of scale....be it BMD or anything else of note to ultimately make sure this establishment is snuffed out at as minimal cost to us and their own people as is possible when the time comes and they still haven't changed.

Their disgusting defence forum is reflective of their establishment and the one here has broad correlation with the Turkish one in comparison w.r.t qualitative focus and cutting down as far as possible on the useless unemployed bum buffoonery (rather than going out of your way to promote the latter).

i.e at the macro scale it is results of big blab talking, deranged attitude to far larger adversary at cost to own economy and people etc.....versus actual competent doing and working with what you have.

i.e With the deranged types, it is easy to make them keep digging their own hole further.
 

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That early? AD-1 and AD-2 are not operationally inducted yet.
I mean, even AAD and PDV MK2 is not operational yet. (If I am not mistaken)

The Upset is not the military imbalance which pakistan is still balancing to an extent but the economic imbalance which will inevitably imbalance the military scale yet the issue is not just economical. Many nations are corrupt and their leadership unfocused. India's own political class is highly corrupt and their military acquisitions rife with tales of corruption so why such economic disparity. Removal of corruption is merely a slogan and in pakistan a spear used to wipe out political parties. It is not the essential component that removes economic growth. What economic growth is political stability and that is something that Pakistan lacks. Its constant interference by the Establishment that feels it knows better than the political class and is far more suited to control the political class then simply leaving it to the people whom they despise as uneducated ruffians.. eventually the economic difference will only grow and eventually Pakistan may only be left with ability to gain some small time skirmish superiority but inability to resolve any conflict in the long run.
I am talking about what should have been quite apparent to Pakistan's establishment regarding the green pine acquisition and swordfish production....and putting two and two together regarding India's economy trajectory even back then.

Rather than smug insular echo chamber exceptionalism that has festered and rotted their already anti-intellectual psyche.

These were big disruptions starting and their establishment picked every fork in the road that has hemmed them into where they are now instead....while India will continue to expand into economies of scale....be it BMD or anything else of note to ultimately make sure this establishment is snuffed out at as minimal cost to us and their own people as is possible when the time comes and they still haven't changed.

Their disgusting defence forum is reflective of their establishment and the one here has broad correlation with the Turkish one in comparison w.r.t qualitative focus and cutting down as far as possible on the useless unemployed bum buffoonery (rather than going out of your way to promote the latter).

i.e at the macro scale it is results of big blab talking, deranged attitude to far larger adversary at cost to own economy and people etc.....versus actual competent doing and working with what you have.

i.e With the deranged types, it is easy to make them keep digging their own hole further.

Pakistan is a naturally an anti-intellectual country. Any thoughts out of the ordinary are not only disregarded but could invite violent reprisal. Change is not only seen as a dangerous motivation but an actual threat to the society all over.

I dont think India will want the establishment of Pakistan to be snuffed out. Yes the establishment is security oriented that has a negative impact on the security of India but considering how self-harming yet absolute the establishment is, it is far easier to keep such an institution and simply grow economically. Once a upon time, India might have taken this option but with the growing economic difference between the two nations, it would be foolish for India to waste any resources in wiping out such a perfect an enemy. An enemy that is too comfortable to fight a war, that is such a liability to its own country that it will make sure that said country can never grow to be a challenge to India, that it has such control that it easier to deal with them than a class of politicians who may come with even more extremist ideas and it an enemy that can be easily pressured on the International stage and whilst this enemy may create some security situations, India is confident that those situations could be used to garner political unity, crush political opposition, foster nationalism and provide controlled retaliation. Even if that retaliation is countered, it would not matter because the unity is just too strong. The Establishment is actually the perfect enemy for India and all india has to do is to grow economically and then start pooling resources in the many chinks in the security of India which will eventually see the establishment only boast here and there. India snuffing out the establishment would be a bad idea. Right now the possibilities are predictable but without the established wheel, the possibilities are endless and dangerous.


As for PDF, I am guessing the forum has gone to the dogs completely.
 

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The Upset is not the military imbalance which pakistan is still balancing to an extent but the economic imbalance which will inevitably imbalance the military scale yet the issue is not just economical. Many nations are corrupt and their leadership unfocused. India's own political class is highly corrupt and their military acquisitions rife with tales of corruption so why such economic disparity. Removal of corruption is merely a slogan and in pakistan a spear used to wipe out political parties. It is not the essential component that removes economic growth. What economic growth is political stability and that is something that Pakistan lacks. Its constant interference by the Establishment that feels it knows better than the political class and is far more suited to control the political class then simply leaving it to the people whom they despise as uneducated ruffians.. eventually the economic difference will only grow and eventually Pakistan may only be left with ability to gain some small time skirmish superiority but inability to resolve any conflict in the long run.


Pakistan is a naturally an anti-intellectual country. Any thoughts out of the ordinary are not only disregarded but could invite violent reprisal. Change is not only seen as a dangerous motivation but an actual threat to the society all over.

I dont think India will want the establishment of Pakistan to be snuffed out. Yes the establishment is security oriented that has a negative impact on the security of India but considering how self-harming yet absolute the establishment is, it is far easier to keep such an institution and simply grow economically. Once a upon time, India might have taken this option but with the growing economic difference between the two nations, it would be foolish for India to waste any resources in wiping out such a perfect an enemy. An enemy that is too comfortable to fight a war, that is such a liability to its own country that it will make sure that said country can never grow to be a challenge to India, that it has such control that it easier to deal with them than a class of politicians who may come with even more extremist ideas and it an enemy that can be easily pressured on the International stage and whilst this enemy may create some security situations, India is confident that those situations could be used to garner political unity, crush political opposition, foster nationalism and provide controlled retaliation. Even if that retaliation is countered, it would not matter because the unity is just too strong. The Establishment is actually the perfect enemy for India and all india has to do is to grow economically and then start pooling resources in the many chinks in the security of India which will eventually see the establishment only boast here and there. India snuffing out the establishment would be a bad idea. Right now the possibilities are predictable but without the established wheel, the possibilities are endless and dangerous.


As for PDF, I am guessing the forum has gone to the dogs completely.

An interesting analysis from a Pakistani perspective. Though, I believe, this is the view from the early 2000s to early 2010s for an Indian perspective.

The above view held when Pakistan was the primary antagonist (I will avoid using enemy) for India. The Chinese threat was viewed as in the mid term horizon. 2020 onwards this view, I believe has changed.

China is now viewed as the primary threat. Pakistan is seen a problem, which needs to be solved. The Indian response will be based on what will be Pakistan's role in the Sino-Indo relationshop. If Pakistan, were to not get involved in the Indo-China play and move towards its own autonomous relationship where it tries to improve its relationship with the West, India will have to play its cards very carefully. This would be Pakistan's best case scenario. Its economy improves, it develops diplomatic relationships with the West, while playing nice with China and ensures it has a global voice with its donors and patrons. While, this is the best case scenario, I think, it will be the least likely scenario.

If it goes into the China camp, then India will be left with no option but to quickly create scenarios where Pakistan will be constantly under pressure from the West and wait for an opportunity to make the PA look impotent. I had written about this couple of years back. If you want, I can post that article here.

An all out war, will happen only if India perceives that Pakistan will attack India, in case of a problem with China. If this becomes a most likely scenario in Indian strategic thinkers minds, you will see India get more aggressive.

As of now, I think we are concentrating on getting our economy grow over the next 10 years where the sheer size of the economy makes our defense budget unmanageble for Pakistan.
 

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Pakistan is a naturally an anti-intellectual country. Any thoughts out of the ordinary are not only disregarded but could invite violent reprisal. Change is not only seen as a dangerous motivation but an actual threat to the society all over.

I dont think India will want the establishment of Pakistan to be snuffed out. Yes the establishment is security oriented that has a negative impact on the security of India but considering how self-harming yet absolute the establishment is, it is far easier to keep such an institution and simply grow economically.

India as a whole, definitely not...there is no greater desire to replace the entity you know with entities you do not know.

But I speak of the reality I see within India's own establishment if god forbid an existential war arrives at some point this half century (or next half century, but I doubt I'll be around for most of that one anyway).

The Pakistani establishment has been able to treat its larger country far more expendable fashion and recklessly than the Indian one (not for lack of intent among Indian one lately though, but there has been some measure of institutional counterweights to such thing that have sunk in and permeated in India). This is a severe problem for Pakistan, and one only it can address.

Otherwise its case of India working to address China this century and having what you need and not needing it (hopefully) rather than needing what you don't have....on a scale much larger than what Pakistan's basic wherewithal can continue to deter endlessly on current trajectory it has picked in the longer term.

i.e The deepset addressal of what its deepset problems (regarding balanced institutional development to curtail sheer concentration of power with a concentrated psyche of some apex grouping in a country) are and the need for solid cold peace (and measure of practical cooperation) with India.

It is a great folly for Pakistan's establishment to be stuck where it is now with its backlog and inertia of policy with both its own population and then with India 6 - 7 times larger at same time. No other country in the world has approached a gargantuan neighbour the way Pakistan has (check out all of China's neighbours and opponents) while simultaneously being so reckless and uncaring of own population at same time. Quixote was really only interesting (and redeemable) in end because there was a realistic Panza next to him....otherwise there is just a windmill crash that cuts the whole story short, and nothing to bring you back down to Earth...and no redemption for the whole.

I care about redemption for the constituent entire various identities (of the human species), so that we may move on to the next more civilized phases of the reality as quick as possible.



Once a upon time, India might have taken this option but with the growing economic difference between the two nations, it would be foolish for India to waste any resources in wiping out such a perfect an enemy. An enemy that is too comfortable to fight a war, that is such a liability to its own country that it will make sure that said country can never grow to be a challenge to India, that it has such control that it easier to deal with them than a class of politicians who may come with even more extremist ideas and it an enemy that can be easily pressured on the International stage and whilst this enemy may create some security situations, India is confident that those situations could be used to garner political unity, crush political opposition, foster nationalism and provide controlled retaliation.

I understand. But Pakistan is not so irrelevant to be ignored. It will be a great danger to India for forseeable future wherever in the triangle between "Ideal Pakistan - Afghanistan - North Korea" it has constrained itself with the current totalist psyche that has penetrated its power groupings of note, all seeking and working to transmit this unadulterated to the next successors that follow.

India (even under hypothetical idealized establishment of its own, which it is far far from) will have to contribute some measure of its treasure to developing a cogent plan if some nasty eventuality surfaces....at maximum damage to precise opponent and minimal damage to its own. Like how the allied nations do so versus North Korea for example.

While at same time working to keep a cold peace as far as possible.


Even if that retaliation is countered, it would not matter because the unity is just too strong. The Establishment is actually the perfect enemy for India and all india has to do is to grow economically and then start pooling resources in the many chinks in the security of India which will eventually see the establishment only boast here and there. India snuffing out the establishment would be a bad idea. Right now the possibilities are predictable but without the established wheel, the possibilities are endless and dangerous.

Sure I agree overall. But there has to be hedging of this strategy if something goes really sideways in Pakistan, which can happen in any country in the end, and more so in countries that have concentrated power in hands of very few (and at some severe extreme loggerheads with the potentiality and reality of its people).

Look at the potentiality (and actualisation) of you and others like you. Good, excellently developed people in moral and logical sense. The deep problems go away if folks like you permeate to the top where it matters in sufficient capacity and entrench. The problem for all of us (in the world at large) is it doesnt happen, the degrees vary between countries that is all.

Its why I keep bringing up North Korea...and also to some degree Iran. No one can predict Pakistan's heading as it is nearly 3 times Iran+NK put together with a ton of swirl/dystopia added to it....and likely will reach 4 - 5 times.

As for PDF, I am guessing the forum has gone to the dogs completely.
Bad is promoted. Good is diminished and mocked.

It has gone from the rough 50/50 when Turks and I were evicted to something like a 90/10 now. Shrug. Vast majority of "online active" Indians prefer that setting too it seems. Hindutva-bhakts love-hate affair with Islamist-Jihadis...and all the equivalents of these with fellow travellers of other countries stuck in the "I must have the last word!" morass.

Time has to be well curated in the end (again by the "establishment") in such places, otherwise bad time cascades far more easily than how good time does. Vice is more seductive and addictive to most than virtue is. It is what it is. The latter needs deliberate cultivation and balance away from online-fora to begin with.
 

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The Pakistani Army is a state unto itself. The view that Pakistan is not a state with an army, but the Pakistani Army is an army with a State is not without merit. The way we deal with Pakistan needs to be seen from that perspective. Our failure to formulate a long term strategy at the military level is one of the main reasons we find it difficult to respond to the terrorist activities of Pakistan. Why are we unable to bring about a change in behaviour in Pakistan. Is there a fundamental error on how we view them? If trade and economic incentives have not achieved our goals, how do we inflict pain? Pain where it hurts. This is what we are going to try and understand.


Hitting Where It Hurts

Feb 26th 2019, is an important day in the history of modern India. The use of Indian air power, in what is essential an area inside Pakistan, was a first since 1971. While the surgical strikes were carried out by Indian troops inside Pakistan occupied J&K, the air strikes were carried out across the international border. For all practical purposes, this was a red line not crossed before.

The response was the PAF attempt to take 'revenge'. The resulting drama and spin by the DGISPR of the Pakistani state gave insights into the strength and weakness of our response. The flip flops by the DG-ISPR further revealed the desparate attempts made by the Pakistani Army to put forth its narrative of success on an operation of failure. The spin over the 'doosra banda" is something which will haunt the Pakistani Army forever.

The entire saga played out over that week, shows that we still do not understand the Pakistani state and it's levers. What have we achieved with the strike on Balakot? The accepted narrative seems to be, we sent a message. The message being, we will hit terror camps even if they are in Pakistani territory and the Pakistani state has been bluffing about the nuclear trigger.

Strategic Restraint
The Indian response till date has always been of strategic restraint. One which portrays the country as a responsible and mature democracy. While the world admired and applauded the same, the target of such a policy understood it as India being a soft State, unable to respond to provocative acts of terrorism. Also, with the distinction being made in Pakistani policy jargon of state actors and non-state actors made it difficult to respond in an effective manner. This emboldened the usage of the term non-state actors in the Pakistani foreign policy language. This also results in the Pakistani narrative of moral support to banned terrorist organisations like Jaish e Mohammad, Lashkar e Taiba and others. The Indian State, till date, has been unable to provide a decisive answer to this moral support. Be it 1993 Mumbai bombings, Parliament in 2001, Akshardham in 2002, Mumbai train bombings in 2006, 26/11 attacks in 2008 and many more. This concept of moral support extends to Pakistan based terrorist organisations and through them to other disgruntled organisations in India. But, the fundamental, foundational support comes from the Pakistani state. Consecutive Indian governments have been unable or disinterested in pushing a counter moral support program. The entire concept of overt strategic restraint, hence, becomes redundant in the absence of a covert moral support program. The result is a punching bag, which once in a while can swerve, but otherwise has to take hits and still be firm.

Costs

While another member has appreciably explained the costs associated with the recent Balakot operation, I am going to try and look at it from a broader perspective.

If we were to look at the psychological, economic and diplomatic cost that we are currently pursuing, we can come to the following basic conclusions.
Psychological costs run both ways. In a country like Pakistan, which has seen multiple terms of military rule, the effect of the cost is low. In a democratic systems, the cost levied by a combative opposition can have a negative effect on the incumbent government. In this scenario, while the cost levied on Pakistan can be high, the effect of that cost is not enough to deter. But, the cost on India will result in a more than proportionate effect, due to a polarisation between the main political parties.

Economic costs, too, do not seem to have much of an effect on the Pakistani state. The Pakistani state has endured sanctions and still the GDP (adjusted for PPP) per capita has been getting better. This will mean the basic Pakistani's living conditions are improving. Their motivation to deviate from the Pakistani narrative, therefore does not exist. Add to this the fact, that, Pakistan always finds a saviour. Be it the Saudis or Chinese or Americans. If CPEC needs to succeed, it will be in the interest of the Chinese to ensure Pakistan does not economically collapse. If not the Chinese, the Americans will step in to take their place. Economic costs, therefore can be borne by the Pakistani state by playing one power with the other. Also, macroeconomic costs taken a much longer period to have an effect on the general populace. A population which has been radicalized even more so.

A diplomatic cost also will result in the same problem. There will never be a consensus in dealing with the terror organisations which specifically target India. The UN resolution on banning Masood Azhar comes to mind, which was deliberately blocked by China. If Pakistan takes action to reduce attacks on American soldiers, one can expect a reduction in American pressure on Pakistan.

An Effective Cost
As can be seen from the above, none of the said costs will have an effect which is desired by India, deterring the Pakistani state from supporting terrorist organisations. Then the question arises, what does the Pakistani Army thrive on. It thrives on being accepted by the Pakistani public at large as the institution which knows best what is good for Pakistan. This is the 'view' that needs to become a cost.

One of the ways to do it would be using media to bring out the corruption levels within the Pakistani military and make that the lead in exposing the PA. But, the blowback can/will be the Pakistani population may rally behind the military. The PA with its ability to inflict coups will quickly turn this into a witch hunt of the media. This therefore cannot be the lead in disgracing the military.

Economic costs on Pakistani military owned institutions through sanctions will require buy-ins from the major powers. And as explained earlier is wont for execution.

The true hurt will lie in attacking the Pakistani military in the area which it is supposed to excel. If one were to look at the 1971 war, this was the only time the Pakistani state actually felt the pain inflicted on it. Even in 1980s, the loss of Siachen hurt the psyche of the Pakistani Army. Even today Pakistanis claim their army is based on Siachen. Siachen is a festering wound which was one of the causes of Kargil. This means, loss of territory is what pains the Pakistani Army. Loss of territory, also causes the Pakistani army to lose face in front of the masses.

Continuous loss of territory is something which will hurt the Pakistani Army and the Pakistani public at large. The immediate response of opponents to this line of thought, will be the nuclear threat. The Pakistani state has a habit of talking about the nuclear threat at the drop of a pin. The question to ask is what is the nuclear red line?

The Nuclear Red Line
A covert cross border raid? No. An over air strike? No. These are what we are aware of today. Will a limited armoured thrust into Sindh result in crossing the red line? Will an invasion of PoJ&K result in crossing the red line? Will a thrust towards Lahore, without capturing the city cross the red line?

The nuclear red line, I believe, will be the imminent threat to the survival of the Pakistani state. A thrust to break the country, using military means will result in breaching of the nuclear red line.

Cost with Effect

This cost will be 2 fold. Loss of territory and loss of control of territory.
Continuous capture of territory by the Indian armed forces, via covert or overt assaults in areas which do not cross the nuclear red line will result in loss of territory. This should start with PoJ&K, intrusions across the IB to protect against insurgents crossing (a buffer zone), aggressive patrolling in the Sir Creek area and continuous capture of territory.

The capture of territory, will initially result in a very strong anti-India sentiment in Pakistan. But continuous loss of territory will result in questions being raised about the effectiveness of the Pakistani military leadership. Every capture of territory, should be followed up with leaks of scams (real/imaginary) concerning the military leadership. Information or news regarding military men running companies which compete with civilian business should be portrayed as crony military capitalism. Movies depicting capture of Pakistani territory should be produced with leading actors and promoted throughout the world.

While the above will be direct contact program, indirect programs which will result in loss of control of territory should also be implemented. Balochistani nationalist feelings should be given full moral support and a platform for grievances should be provided. This should also involve nurturing of Balochi youth into think tanks in the West. Increased spends should be provided for lobbying groups for the Baloch cause. The Pashtun dominated areas need to be encouraged to rebel against the Pakistani state. The legality of the Durand Line should be brought in for scrutiny in the eyes of the world at large.

This policy will need to be implemented with the buy-in of the major political parties, irrespective of which government is in power. The Indian population will need to be provided a narrative of rightful defence. At the same time, care should be taken to ensure the Indian population does not get influenced to be part of any of the resistance movements within Pakistan. This should be restricted as arm of state policy.

The above requires taking the fight to the enemy. Moving from reactive policy to an active policy. Dropping the notion of Strategic Restraint and replacing it with a policy of Strategic Intent.


Had written this in 2020.
 

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So called continues capture of Pakistani territory will result in Pakistani tactical nuclear strike on Indian army's formations. That is what precisely Tactical nukes are for.

This kind of adventurous thinking of escalation control against conventionally weaker Nuclear armed adversary is dangerous.
 

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In the end if your whole plan is to nuke yourself when this is your population density
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And all that for taking out indian IBGs that are spread over kilometers. Max casualties would no where be crippling for indian military. Also having your most significant city being under artillery range of the enemy is also a big L for Pakistan . In reality though in most cases india will not likely go for a ground invasion and instead go for a naval blockade
 

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So called continues capture of Pakistani territory will result in Pakistani tactical nuclear strike on Indian army's formations. That is what precisely Tactical nukes are for.

This kind of adventurous thinking of escalation control against conventionally weaker Nuclear armed adversary is dangerous.
What exactly is the red line?

Crossing LoC was, it was done.
Crossing IB was, it was done.
Making areas unaccessible to the PA was, it was done.

Continuous loss of metres of land is not a red line. Especially across the LoC.

Red lines have been crossed.
 

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Pakistan conducted a successful flight test of the Ababeel Weapon System on October 18. — Photo courtesy Radio Pakistan


In a statement, the Inter-Service Public Relations (ISPR) said, “Pakistan today conducted a successful flight test of Ababeel Weapon System. The test flight was aimed at re-validating various design, technical parameters and performance evaluation of different sub-systems of the weapon system.”


The launch was witnessed by Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee General Sahir Shamshad Mirza, senior officers from the Strategic Plans Divison and Strategic Forces Command as well as scientists and engineers from Strategic Organisations.




The ISPR said the missile system was “aimed at strengthening deterrence and enhancing strategic stability in the region through the operationalisation of Full Spectrum Deterrence in the overall construct of Credible Minimum Deterrence”.

On the occasion, the CJCSC appreciated the technical prowess, dedication and commitment of all those who contributed towards the successful test, the statement said.

It further stated that President Dr Arif Alvi, caretaker Prime Minister Anwaarul Haq Kkar and the services chiefs congratulated all members of the Strategic Forces on the achievement.



Sometimes i just forget Subcontinent is still locked into a nuclear arms race. Anyway, I guess it is a big deal for Pak Strategic Force Command.
It is important to note, Ababeel is Pakistan's first and only MIRV (3x 500kg warheads) capable Strategic nuclear weapon delivery system.

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"The missile has a length of 21.5 meters and a diameter of 1.7 meters and is designed to carry both conventional and nuclear warheads. It has multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles (MIRV), demonstrating South Asia’s first MIRV payload. It has a maximum range of 2,200 kilometres (1,400 mi). As such, it would be Pakistan's first missile with this capability. It can carry total 1,500 kg ( 3,307 lb) warhead , which consists of three standard warheads of 500 kg ( 1102.3 lb) each or 5 of 300 kg ( 661.4 lb) or 8 maximum Warheads weighing 185 kg (408 lb)"




They first test fired it in 2017.


@TR_123456 @Nilgiri @Gary @Ryder @Sanchez et al.

I wish Pakistan could use the propulsion system to advance rockets for not only military purpose, but civilian research as well.

We have yet to see the motor used to launch something like a satellite.
 

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I wish Pakistan could use the propulsion system to advance rockets for not only military purpose, but civilian research as well.

We have yet to see the motor used to launch something like a satellite.
Search "Abu salam" you will find the answer on why pakistan despite having one of the oldest space agency in Asia.You might well know him as he was a genius that was wronged in so many ways.
 

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Search "Abu salam" you will find the answer on why pakistan despite having one of the oldest space agency in Asia.You might well know him as he was a genius that was wronged in so many ways.
Its actually Abdus Salam
 

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Economic costs, too, do not seem to have much of an effect on the Pakistani state. The Pakistani state has endured sanctions and still the GDP (adjusted for PPP) per capita has been getting better. This will mean the basic Pakistani's living conditions are improving.

That's like saying India should abandon the path of becoming more like South Korea and Japan (and the US/West), just because North Korea GDP PPP "is getting better" in some very nominal way past the sanctions and their own regime foolhardiness.

More economic sanction pain commensurately grows as your own economy grows its wherewithal (and consequences for other countries engaging with the opponent). India still has a recent past of sub-trillion GDP after all that has lot of inertia in what it couldnt bring to bear that you shouldnt dismiss....it hasnt been a 4T dollar economy for last chunk of 20 years, its a ramp in the end and the average integral has been lacking to what you describe....so how can it be called as ineffectual if you never developed the proper long term integral size to have effect to begin with?

There is much to learn from the North Korean scenario.

Specific mind-capture doctrine for just Pakistan is exactly what the Pak regime wants from gullible birdbrain Indians (bhakt trolls, extreme dullard types et al), it gives them attention which they then launder into further control over their population psychologically.

Very similar to the droves of Indian nincompoops mind-captured by PDF 24/7 and its other twitter equivalents...and servile to such things. They are the archetype that hold back Indian development severely. These people have no idea how to give a short incisive slap and get to better things to use time.

Whereas talking less, doing more in bulking up and growing array of actually productive options in every human endeavour, so those aligned against such human endeavour (in their anti-intellectual anti-human zero-sum delusional elitist mindframe) are simply left behind to whither away and contained.

Counter deterrence (conventional or unconventional) handles most of the rest....which again requires own economic and endeavour fortitude.
 

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