Live Conflict Pakistan-India Conflict (2025)

[Jackdaws]

India retaliating against Pakistan retaliation?

Previously India said they didnt target Pakistan military and didnt want to escalate, it seems that India really care about losing those fighters although dont want to admit it, thus now risking escalation.

Did Pakistan retaliation towards India caused heavy damage to India? No right?

It’s about not backing down. It’s a war of attrition. Pak wanted to attack military installations so they were replied in kind. Pakistan has never sent jets inside Indian territory either. Not now, now in Kargil in ‘99, not in 2019. It’s obvious who is afraid to lose fighters. At the end of the day, India has more resources.

 

[NEKO]

It’s obvious who is afraid to lose fighters.

And now India use missiles and drones, no longer dared to use fighters.

At the end of the day, India has more resources.

True.

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921175637869441171

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921175494633943541

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921180172646048048

 

[Saithan]

So it's about inflicting as much damage before ceasefire ?

 

[Gessler]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921133483600015454

PAF Base Shahbaz (Jacobabad), before & after:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921147723547631900

Sargodha & Jacobabad...that's two of Pakistan's most important Air Bases that India has successfully struck (there are many more that were also attacked, like Nur Khan AFB, but these two are ~200 kms away from the border and used to be considered 'safe').

What's more - going by the photos & videos of fresh smoke emerging from the bases, it appears they were actually struck during the DAY. The strikes must have likely been following up after an extensive SEAD/DEAD campaign targeting the Air Defences of these bases, which must have transpired the previous night.

Otherwise, successful attacks on such highly defended bases during daylight hours would have been impossible.

Till this point, it seems India is still only sending very measured, calibrated responses to Pakistani provocations - sending the message that no Air Base of Pakistan is out of reach for India's missile arsenal.

These small volleys of perhaps 2-3 missiles per base that India is now launching can easily be supplanted with salvos of a dozen or more - which an already weakened Pakistani AD would be in no position to hold off.

Every single Pakistani military asset contained in these bases is that close to being a permanent write-off.

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Any way, by tomorrow we should be getting high-res satellite images showing the extent of damage to critical bases like Sargodha, Jacobabad & Bholari.

So it's about inflicting as much damage before ceasefire ?

Seems that way.

 

[TR_123456]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921133483600015454

PAF Base Shahbaz (Jacobabad), before & after:

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921147723547631900

Sargodha & Jacobabad...that's two of Pakistan's most important Air Bases that India has successfully struck (there are many more that were also attacked, like Nur Khan AFB, but these two are ~200 kms away from the border and used to be considered 'safe').

What's more - going by the photos & videos of fresh smoke emerging from the bases, it appears they were actually struck during the DAY. The strikes must have likely been following up after an extensive SEAD/DEAD campaign targeting the Air Defences of these bases, which must have transpired the previous night.

Otherwise, successful attacks on such highly defended bases during daylight hours would have been impossible.

Till this point, it seems India is still only sending very measured, calibrated responses to Pakistani provocations - sending the message that no Air Base of Pakistan is out of reach for India's missile arsenal.

These small volleys of perhaps 2-3 missiles per base that India is now launching can easily be supplanted with salvos of a dozen or more - which an already weakened Pakistani AD would be in no position to hold off.

Every single Pakistani military asset contained in these bases is that close to being a permanent write-off.

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Any way, by tomorrow we should be getting high-res satellite images showing the extent of damage to critical bases like Sargodha, Jacobabad & Bholari.



Seems that way.

So,does India confirm the Rafale and S-400 loss?

 

[Gessler]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921192363629965357

Seems that way.

Or maybe not...it seems the call from Pakistan's DGMO initiating ceasefire only came in the afternoon. But these strikes were probably done in the early hours of the day. US may have only played the role of a facilitator.

We'll see...there's already reports of fresh firing at Akhnoor sector in J&K. The ceasefire may have already been broken (would depend on what the terms were...cessation of only missile/air strikes would mean artillery/small arms exchange -- which is more or less normal at the LoC -- would continue).

 

[Gessler]

So,does India confirm the Rafale and S-400 loss?

Haven't heard anything yet, though I doubt some of those claims.

Destruction of an S400 battery/launcher, if true, cannot be hidden from satellite images. The system has a huge footprint.

If the Govt officially announces Op. Sindoor as over, then they might start announcing what the losses & damages were.

 

[I_Love_F16]

 

[Gessler]

We'll see...there's already reports of fresh firing at Akhnoor sector in J&K. The ceasefire may have already been broken

Yep - Pakistan has launched fresh drone & artillery attacks all across the border.

The ceasefire didn't last 3 hours

 

[Iskander]

Chinese-Made PL-15 Air-To-Air Missile Components Came Down Intact Inside India​

The largely intact rear section and other parts of a Chinese-made PL-15E active-radar-guided air-to-air missile came down in India during a battle in the skies along the country’s border with Pakistan earlier this week. While many details about the aerial confrontation between the two countries remain murky, it marked the first known combat use of any version of the PL-15. Recovery of any parts of what is one of China’s most modern air-to-air missiles could be of great interest to authorities in India, as well as to its allies and partners.

At a press conference today, Pakistani officials said that Chinese-made J-10 and JF-17 fighters, as well as U.S.-supplied F-16 Vipers, had taken part in the aerial fighting with Indian forces on the night of May 6-7. They also explicitly noted the employment of PL-15E missiles. Pakistani authorities claim 42 of their fighters tangled with 72 Indian jets, downing five of the opposing aircraft – three French-made Rafales, one Russian-made Su-30MKI Flanker, one Russian-made MiG-29 Fulcrum

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920910213521006705

Chinese-Made PL-15 Air-To-Air Missile Components Came Down Intact Inside India

Pakistani use of PL-15Es against Indian fighters opens up a new vector for intelligence exploitation on one of China's most threatening missiles.

www.twz.com

We already know that the French have admitted the downing of the Rafale. They believe that this is the first time a Rafale has been shot down in combat. They are probably very worried about this incident. After all, India was going to buy 36 more of this type of fighter from France.
The Russians are a different matter. Their reaction, as always, is special. Russian experts say that the downed MiG-29 was old, and as for the Su-30, the Russians blame the Indians themselves, saying that they modified them themselves, so the Russians have nothing to do with it.
In fact, you can understand the Russians: why should a person in wet clothes be afraid of rain?!