Live Conflict Pakistan-India Tensions

[Iskander]

The only thing proven is that Pakistan and its media is clutching at straws with 0 proof. No missile signatures. No remnant of a plane shot down. No pilot who ejected. No footage of any plane going down. Whatever footage they have provided has been either AI generated or unrelated to the incident. There was even an attempt to photoshop 001 on some picture. But I guess the Pak population needs to be sold a narrative that it will lap up. Old habits die hard.

The Indian side has not provided any data confirming the destruction of enemy targets. I have not seen any photos or videos yet. But even without them, it is known that 6 to 9 targets were attacked. The Pakistanis have provided some evidence - a Rafale engine, an ejection seat from a Su-30 and others.



The French have admitted that the Pakistanis shot down at least one Rafale. The Indian side initially admitted the crash of 2 or 3 of its fighters of Russian origin. Now they are not confirming this.
True, the Russians do not admit this either. But the Russians are a special case, they did not even admit to the destruction of the Russian flagship by the Ukrainians 3 years later.
And you write as if nothing happened.
India carried out Operation Sindoor. Apparently, it was quite successful in terms of destroying Pakistani targets. But if we consider that 3 or 5 fighters were shot down during the operation, then even without Pakistani propaganda, the operation looks like a failure to some extent.

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920378935482691778

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920426841002721654

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920411076597797224

According to poster 25 Harops has been hit in the swarm attack so far.

Doesn't this seem like an act of revenge for losing those fighter jets?

I mean you conduct an operation and hit 9 targets, you kinda screw up and lose face on international level by losing 3-5 jets. So you decide to use Harops to take out Chinese AD systems as revenge...

And your politicians are talking about not escalating things.....

 

[hugh]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920411076597797224

According to poster 25 Harops has been hit in the swarm attack so far.

Doesn't this seem like an act of revenge for losing those fighter jets?

I mean you conduct an operation and hit 9 targets, you kinda screw up and lose face on international level by losing 3-5 jets. So you decide to use Harops to take out Chinese AD systems as revenge...

25 harops? how many Harops has India purchased in total?

btw, i wouldn't put much trust in that akp shill's posts.

 

[mTT]

25 harops? how many Harops has India purchased in total?

btw, i wouldn't put much trust in that akp shill's posts.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920424988110475505

 

[mTT]

India's official statement about the counter-attack last night.

 

[Afif]

Both were debunked - older pics posted.

Could you post how they were debunked?

 

[Saithan]

Well, tit for tat has started. let's see how far it'll go.

 

[Jackdaws]

Could you post how they were debunked?

Sure

Pakistani media shows old images of crashed IAF aircraft claiming Indian jets shot down post Op Sindoor - Alt News

Within hours of the news break about India’s Operation Sindoor targeting terrorist bases in Pakistan and Pakistan-occupied Jammu and Kashmir on May 7, Pakistani media and social media users shared...

www.altnews.in

 

[mTT]

Sure

Pakistani media shows old images of crashed IAF aircraft claiming Indian jets shot down post Op Sindoor - Alt News

Within hours of the news break about India’s Operation Sindoor targeting terrorist bases in Pakistan and Pakistan-occupied Jammu and Kashmir on May 7, Pakistani media and social media users shared...

www.altnews.in

Everyone accepts that these are fake. Our claims are different, we shared them above, and they have not been refuted.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920096035780636979

(collective claim)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920032588317528125

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920142813498311108

facebook post date : 07 May 2025 07:11 (UTC+3)

I think a UAV

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1919996597963833684

@Jackdaws Do you have links for them?

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920461929862046061

 

[Ripley]

“A CNN source in the Pakistani security service stated that 125 Pakistani and Indian fighter jets did not leave their respective airspaces. The two sides exchanged missile strikes, and the battle lasted over an hour. In some cases, missile strikes were carried out from over 160 kilometers.”

Major aerial battle erupts between Pakistan and India involving around 125 jets

Read more

newsukraine.rbc.ua

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/07/asia/operation-sindoor-india-pakistan-attack-wwk-intl-hnk

Not posting old news here, just to mark a point in history.

This engagement will be remembered in the annals of military history as the first clash where in an aerial combat both sides engaged each other without having a real dogfight within visual range.
A similar beyond vision battle was fought between American and Japanese CVs at Midway 83 years ago first time in history which neither side’s fleet elements exchanged gun salvos.

 

[Afif]

Sure

Pakistani media shows old images of crashed IAF aircraft claiming Indian jets shot down post Op Sindoor - Alt News

Within hours of the news break about India’s Operation Sindoor targeting terrorist bases in Pakistan and Pakistan-occupied Jammu and Kashmir on May 7, Pakistani media and social media users shared...

www.altnews.in

Nope that's not it.

Different stuff. Again do see the one I posted. And try to find out if they are legit or debunked.

Post in thread 'Pakistan-India Tensions' https://defencehub.live/threads/pakistan-india-tensions.20688/post-364296

 

[Nilgiri]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1919906083352514756

Presumably Mirage 2000 (M53 engine and the nose cone)



Likely from a Mig29. @Jackdaws

Along with these we have reports of three crashes by The Hindu, Reuters, citing local government officials.

Would it be safe to say currently Pakistan claims 5 - 6 (depending on whether a heron is included) shootdowns (whether by IAD or CAP).

....and we have at least 3 - 4 objective wreckage sites on Indian side....with one very likely a Rafale.

The rest we will have to wait for more details and analysis.

Like Pakistan claims 3 rafales were shot down rather than just 1 that we have objective evidence so far.

There is a seeker from PL-15 also objectively seen in Hoshiarpur area iirc, but at this point its unproven if it was involved in a shootdown.

A lot of this needs the conflict window to die down, more info releases to come through and time for objective analysis to play out etc.

 

[RMZN]

Pakistan confirms loss of 2 JF17s

and Indian media reporting downing an F16

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920503699631222922

sounds like an AI voiceover lmfao

Edit: Yeah he sounds different in this official video:

Good deepfake though, it has lipsync and if it weren't for the fact that I heard his voice in another clip before it would have sounded much more real.

 

[mTT]

sounds like an AI voiceover lmfao

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920506186899861804

No news for JF17

 

[RMZN]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920506186899861804

No news for JF17

Hilarious video lol. Especially with the Rafale and Breaking News spam animation.

 

[mTT]

Hilarious video lol. Especially with the Rafale and Breaking News spam animation.

Pakistan will admit that 2 JF17 fighter jets crashed. Imagine how the Indian media will react (animations, official statements, interviews).

We won't hear this news from one AI and fake video from here.

The news about the claim that they shot down 1 Pakistani F-16 is obvious.

 

[Jackdaws]

sounds like an AI voiceover lmfao

That’s a pretty mean to say about the Pakistani guy talking

 

[Nilgiri]

That’s a pretty mean to say about the Pakistani guy talking

Its AI voiceover disinfo put out by someone and spread. Cpl other places fell for it too.