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[Elaser]

I am surprised it took so long for this to come out and it doesnt surprise me at all. This is the only way TUrkey can achieve succes. I see people talking about coups, death penalty, decapitations, generals ruling etc.

That time has pased. Evren was needed in 1938, not in 1980. Too late and the best thing that brings stability and prosperity is now with glorious AKP under glorious leadership of our glorious President!

And no i am not bieng sarcastic. Secularizm and its proponents has failed to change Turkey for decades so now Turkey has to make the best out of the situation and that is islamist-light politics that caters to the majority of Turks. Wheter you like it or not...

Also with delvaluation of lira, now turkey can be export giant in the next decades and it needs to make a name for itself with international turkish brands like industrial giants like germany, france etc...

Some want turkey to become like high income country with high export figures in less than 20 years of AKP rule. That is impossible with no oil and gas like iran and the gulf countries but Turkey is half way to become high income country. It just another 19 years...2040...

 

[Spook]

I am surprised it took so long for this to come out and it doesnt surprise me at all. This is the only way TUrkey can achieve succes. I see people talking about coups, death penalty, decapitations, generals ruling etc.

That time has pased. Evren was needed in 1938, not in 1980. Too late and the best thing that brings stability and prosperity is now with glorious AKP under glorious leadership of our glorious President!

And no i am not bieng sarcastic. Secularizm and its proponents has failed to change Turkey for decades so now Turkey has to make the best out of the situation and that is islamist-light politics that caters to the majority of Turks. Wheter you like it or not...

Also with delvaluation of lira, now turkey can be export giant in the next decades and it needs to make a name for itself with international turkish brands like industrial giants like germany, france etc...

Some want turkey to become like high income country with high export figures in less than 20 years of AKP rule. That is impossible with no oil and gas like iran and the gulf countries but Turkey is half way to become high income country. It just another 19 years...2040...

**Lives in Sweden**

 

[Elaser]

**Lives in Sweden**

Yes delicious scandi social democracy... you have any arguments or only below belt punch?

 

[what]

**Lives in Sweden**

If you have nothing substantial to add, you might as well do not comment.

 

[Elaser]

My avatar summarizes it all.

I live in the most corrupt shithole in the entire EU and still all the schemes I read about happening in Turkey every day make me only say "WTF bro?". They indeed revolutionized and perfected corruption and managed to reach levels unseen before.

You don't need to see it as corruption but good governance that suits Turkey and it works quite well. Better than anything since 1938...

 

[Anastasius]

I am surprised it took so long for this to come out and it doesnt surprise me at all. This is the only way TUrkey can achieve succes. I see people talking about coups, death penalty, decapitations, generals ruling etc.

That time has pased. Evren was needed in 1938, not in 1980. Too late and the best thing that brings stability and prosperity is now with glorious AKP under glorious leadership of our glorious President!

And no i am not bieng sarcastic. Secularizm and its proponents has failed to change Turkey for decades so now Turkey has to make the best out of the situation and that is islamist-light politics that caters to the majority of Turks. Wheter you like it or not...

Also with delvaluation of lira, now turkey can be export giant in the next decades and it needs to make a name for itself with international turkish brands like industrial giants like germany, france etc...

Some want turkey to become like high income country with high export figures in less than 20 years of AKP rule. That is impossible with no oil and gas like iran and the gulf countries but Turkey is half way to become high income country. It just another 19 years...2040...

It is very much possible if, you know, the government didn't wreck educational institutions across the board and wrecked the economy so bad that Turkey's best and brightest are fleeing overseas to contribute their talents elsewhere and help them develop even further.

But no, surely doubling down on making everyone in Turkey into a parody of the Victorian factory worker being driven to death by the cruel owner just so they could scrape enough to survive is the way to go! It's not like it's just going to make the brain drain even worse and f**k everything up even more.

You guys have a very low opinion of your fellow Turkish citizens as capable of achieving higher standards if given the opportunity. Imagine if the Japanese had so little respect for themselves and their nation during and after the Meiji Restoration.

 

[Elaser]

It is very much possible if, you know, the government didn't wreck educational institutions across the board and wrecked the economy so bad that Turkey's best and brightest are fleeing overseas to contribute their talents elsewhere and help them develop even further.

But no, surely doubling down on making everyone in Turkey into a parody of the Victorian factory worker being driven to death by the cruel owner just so they could scrape enough to survive is the way to go! It's not like it's just going to make the brain drain even worse and f**k everything up even more.

You guys have a very low opinion of your fellow Turkish citizens as capable of achieving higher standards if given the opportunity. Imagine if the Japanese had so little respect for themselves and their nation during and after the Meiji Restoration.

emotional appeals, not going to bother and do not compare hivemind east-asians with passionate Turks.

Blame the post 1938 politicians and intellectuals for failing to continue the modernization and social secularization of Turkey.

Turkey had enough pioneers and visionaries that were treated badly and out of shame these stories were buried only to be dug out decades later to be used as inspiration for a new generation under the guidance of glorious AKP!

 

[Anastasius]

emotional appeals, not going to bother and do not compare hivemind east-asians with passionate Turks.

Blame the post 1938 politicians and intellectuals for failing to continue the modernization and social secularization of Turkey.

Turkey had enough pioneers and visionaries that were treated badly and out of shame these stories were buried only to be dug out decades later to be used as inspiration for a new generation under the guidance of glorious AKP!

Yeah, that's my point. Turkey has the potential for its citizens to do and have better but you seem to think that Turkey only deserves governments that excel at awful things like the above.

Japanese are no more a hive-mind than anyone else. Turks are originally from Asia too, don't forget. We share more than a little bit with the likes of Koreans, Chinese and the Japanese.

 

[Elaser]

Yeah, that's my point. Turkey has the potential for its citizens to do and have better but you seem to think that Turkey only deserves governments that excel at awful things like the above.

Yes blame the governments of 1938-2002 for that... Sad

 

[Anastasius]

Yes blame the governments of 1938-2002 for that... Sad

I'll blame the current government as well.

 

[Saithan]

List revealed: They gave dozens of public goods to foundations​

It turned out that 38 immovable properties belonging to İBB were given to foundations such as TÜGVA, TÜRGEV and Ensar in 2015-19.​

15 October 2021 09:22Updated: 15 October 2021 09:24

Between 2015 and 2019, IMM gave 38 immovable properties to the mentioned associations and foundations by renting or allocating. It is seen that the Service Foundation (TÜRGEV) was given to TÜGVA, of which Bilal Erdoğan is on the High Advisory Board, and the ENSAR Foundation, which has been heard about child abuse in Karaman.

According to the news of Hazal Ocak from Cumhuriyet, 34 immovables and 4 immovables were allocated directly by IMM by making a joint service protocol. Some immovables have still not been vacated despite the termination of the lease agreements. Some of them are still in legal process. Some of the immovables received were re-gained to IMM. IMM spent 840 million liras on foundations and associations in the previous period. The report prepared by IMM inspectors on this amount was seized by the Ministry of Interior. Still no sound from the file.

According to the information obtained from IMM sources, the full list and current status of the immovables allocated to associations and foundations are as follows:
TURGEV:

- On August 23, 2019, IMM made a notice of termination for the dormitory building in Mecidiyeköy, Dereboyu Street. The building was not delivered to IMM. The legal process continues.

- On August 23, 2019, IMM made a notice of termination for the dormitory building in Avcılar, Gümüşpala District. It was delivered to the Lifelong Learning Directorate on 24 December 2019. The legal process continues.

- IMM made a notice of termination on August 23, 2019 for the dormitory building on Darülaceze Street in Şişli. Delivered on July 10, 2020. The legal process continues.

- Fatih, IMM made a termination notice on August 23, 2019 for the dormitory building in Balabanaga District. Delivered on December 30, 2019. The legal process continues.

TÜGVA:
- The representative office in Sarıyer, Ferahevler Mahallesi was delivered on 15 July 2020.
- The representative building in Büyükçekmece, 19 Mayıs District was delivered on 17 August 2020.

- The representative office in Avcılar, Denizköşkler Neighborhood was delivered on 15 July 2020.
- The representative office in Silivri, Pirimehmetpaşa Mahallesi was delivered on 07 May 2020.
- The representative office building in Beşiktaş, Muradiye Mahallesi was delivered on 15 July 2020.

- The representative office in Bakırköy, Kartaltepe Mahallesi was delivered on August 12, 2020.
- The representative office in Şişli, Fulya Mahallesi was delivered on 15 July 2020.
- The representative office in Kadıköy, Hasanpaşa Mahallesi, was delivered on July 15, 2020.
- The representative office building in Çatalca, Ferhatpaşa Mahallesi, was delivered on 15 July 2020.

- The representative office in Beylikdüzü, Barış Mahallesi, was delivered on 1 August 2020.

- A notice of termination was made on March 3, 2020 for the representative office in Üsküdar, Ahmediye Mahallesi, the building was not evacuated.
The representative office in Sarıyer, Maslak District was delivered on 13 September 2019.

ENSAR FOUNDATION:
- IMM made a notice of termination on August 22, 2019 for the dormitory building in Ataşehir, İnönü Mahallesi, the building was not delivered. The legal process continues.

- IMM made a notice of termination on August 22, 2019 for the dormitory building in Çatalca, Kaleiçi Mahallesi, the building was not delivered. The legal process continues.

- On August 22, 2019, IMM made a notice of termination for the dormitory building in Avcılar, University District. The evacuated building was rented again as IMM dormitory. The legal process continues.

- For the dormitory building in Ataşehir, İnönü Mahallesi, IMM made a notice of termination on August 22, 2019, the building was delivered on November 30, 2019. The legal process continues.

- IMM made a notice of termination on 22 August 2019 for the dormitory building in Kartal, Cevizli Mahallesi, the building was not delivered. The legal process continues.

- For the dormitory building in Şişli, Mecidiyeköy Mahallesi, IMM made a termination notice on August 22, 2019, the building was delivered on November 8, 2019. The legal process continues.

- IMM made a termination notice on 22 August 2019 for the dormitory building in Maltepe, Çınar Mahallesi.

AZIZ MAHMUT HUDAYI FOUNDATION:
- For the dormitory building in Üsküdar Bulgurlu Mahallesi, IMM made a termination notice on August 22, 2019, the building was not delivered. The legal process continues.

- IMM made a notice of termination on 22 August 2019 for the dormitory building in Kadıköy, Merdivenköy District, the building was not delivered. The legal process continues.

- IMM made a notice of termination on 22 August 2019 for the dormitory building in Gaziosmanpaşa, Merkez Mahallesi, the building was not delivered. The legal process continues.

- IMM made a notice of termination on August 22, 2019 for the dormitory building in Kısıklı Mahallesi, Üsküdar, the building was not delivered. The legal process continues.

- IMM made a notice of termination on 22 August 2019 for the dormitory building in Üsküdar, Küçük Çamlıca Neighborhood, the building was not delivered. The legal process continues.

- For the dormitory building in Üsküdar, Cumhuriyet Mahallesi, IMM made a termination notice on August 22, 2019, the building was not delivered. The legal process continues.

ASITANE ASSOCIATION:
- For the dormitory building in Fatih, Hatice Sultan District, IMM made a termination notice on August 22, 2019, the building was delivered on November 30, 2019.

DARU'L FUNUN THEORY FOUNDATION:
- On August 22, 2019, IMM made a notice of termination for the dormitory building in Fatih, Kalkandere District. The building was evacuated and re-leased at the request of the Health and Hygiene Directorate.

ISTANBUL ENDERUN EDUCATION AND CULTURE FOUNDATION:
- The promotion office rented from the Foundations in Kaba Halil Madrasa was allocated to the IMM Youth and Sports Directorate.

KNOWLEDGE FOUNDATION:
- IMM made a notice of termination on March 3, 2020 for the dormitory building in Eyüp, Silahtarağa Mahallesi, the building was not delivered.

Leader Imam Hatip Association:

- Fatih, IMM made a notice of termination on March 3, 2020 for its central building in Sultanahmet District. The building was received, a letter was written to the IMM Assembly for its allocation to the IETT General Directorate to be used in IETT services.

THEY WILL USE FOR YEARS​

IMM, under AKP rule, has allocated some immovables that are under its own ownership to affiliate foundations and associations.

- The real estate in Pendik, Seyhli Neighborhood was allocated to the Science Spreading Foundation on November 7, 2018. The allocation period will expire in 2043.

- The real estate in Zeytinburnu, Kazlıçeşme Neighborhood was allocated to the Deniz Feneri Aid and Solidarity Association on April 2, 2019. The allocation period will expire in 2029.

- The real estate in Pendik, Dolayoba Neighborhood was allocated free of charge to the Science Dissemination Society on September 17, 2014. The allocation period will expire in 2039.

- The real estate in Fatih, Kariye Mahallesi was allocated to TÜGVA on 12 December 2018. The allocation period will expire in 2043.

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[Sinan]

Also with delvaluation of lira, now turkey can be export giant in the next decades and it needs to make a name for itself with international turkish brands like industrial giants like germany, france etc...

Just gonna answer once to this Erdofan than block him as he is wasting time.

1-) If you follow this plan, only exporters will be rich and people who works with salaries will stay poor and become poorer.

2-) Turkey can't increase it's exports because already production lines run with %90 capacity to increase exports. Investors need to invest more to factories buy new production lines or open up new factories. Foreign investment is not coming to Turkey anymore as Turkey ceased to be a country ruled by law. People don't want take loans from banks as inflation and loan rates are high. So, there will no capacity increase.

People, who know nothing about economy run their mouth and just make some noise as they think everybody is ignorant like them.

 

[Sinan]

List revealed: They gave dozens of public goods to foundations​

It turned out that 38 immovable properties belonging to İBB were given to foundations such as TÜGVA, TÜRGEV and Ensar in 2015-19.​

15 October 2021 09:22Updated: 15 October 2021 09:24

Between 2015 and 2019, IMM gave 38 immovable properties to the mentioned associations and foundations by renting or allocating. It is seen that the Service Foundation (TÜRGEV) was given to TÜGVA, of which Bilal Erdoğan is on the High Advisory Board, and the ENSAR Foundation, which has been heard about child abuse in Karaman.

According to the news of Hazal Ocak from Cumhuriyet, 34 immovables and 4 immovables were allocated directly by IMM by making a joint service protocol. Some immovables have still not been vacated despite the termination of the lease agreements. Some of them are still in legal process. Some of the immovables received were re-gained to IMM. IMM spent 840 million liras on foundations and associations in the previous period. The report prepared by IMM inspectors on this amount was seized by the Ministry of Interior. Still no sound from the file.

According to the information obtained from IMM sources, the full list and current status of the immovables allocated to associations and foundations are as follows:
TURGEV:

- On August 23, 2019, IMM made a notice of termination for the dormitory building in Mecidiyeköy, Dereboyu Street. The building was not delivered to IMM. The legal process continues.

- On August 23, 2019, IMM made a notice of termination for the dormitory building in Avcılar, Gümüşpala District. It was delivered to the Lifelong Learning Directorate on 24 December 2019. The legal process continues.

- IMM made a notice of termination on August 23, 2019 for the dormitory building on Darülaceze Street in Şişli. Delivered on July 10, 2020. The legal process continues.

- Fatih, IMM made a termination notice on August 23, 2019 for the dormitory building in Balabanaga District. Delivered on December 30, 2019. The legal process continues.

TÜGVA:
- The representative office in Sarıyer, Ferahevler Mahallesi was delivered on 15 July 2020.
- The representative building in Büyükçekmece, 19 Mayıs District was delivered on 17 August 2020.

- The representative office in Avcılar, Denizköşkler Neighborhood was delivered on 15 July 2020.
- The representative office in Silivri, Pirimehmetpaşa Mahallesi was delivered on 07 May 2020.
- The representative office building in Beşiktaş, Muradiye Mahallesi was delivered on 15 July 2020.

- The representative office in Bakırköy, Kartaltepe Mahallesi was delivered on August 12, 2020.
- The representative office in Şişli, Fulya Mahallesi was delivered on 15 July 2020.
- The representative office in Kadıköy, Hasanpaşa Mahallesi, was delivered on July 15, 2020.
- The representative office building in Çatalca, Ferhatpaşa Mahallesi, was delivered on 15 July 2020.

- The representative office in Beylikdüzü, Barış Mahallesi, was delivered on 1 August 2020.

- A notice of termination was made on March 3, 2020 for the representative office in Üsküdar, Ahmediye Mahallesi, the building was not evacuated.
The representative office in Sarıyer, Maslak District was delivered on 13 September 2019.

ENSAR FOUNDATION:
- IMM made a notice of termination on August 22, 2019 for the dormitory building in Ataşehir, İnönü Mahallesi, the building was not delivered. The legal process continues.

- IMM made a notice of termination on August 22, 2019 for the dormitory building in Çatalca, Kaleiçi Mahallesi, the building was not delivered. The legal process continues.

- On August 22, 2019, IMM made a notice of termination for the dormitory building in Avcılar, University District. The evacuated building was rented again as IMM dormitory. The legal process continues.

- For the dormitory building in Ataşehir, İnönü Mahallesi, IMM made a notice of termination on August 22, 2019, the building was delivered on November 30, 2019. The legal process continues.

- IMM made a notice of termination on 22 August 2019 for the dormitory building in Kartal, Cevizli Mahallesi, the building was not delivered. The legal process continues.

- For the dormitory building in Şişli, Mecidiyeköy Mahallesi, IMM made a termination notice on August 22, 2019, the building was delivered on November 8, 2019. The legal process continues.

- IMM made a termination notice on 22 August 2019 for the dormitory building in Maltepe, Çınar Mahallesi.

AZIZ MAHMUT HUDAYI FOUNDATION:
- For the dormitory building in Üsküdar Bulgurlu Mahallesi, IMM made a termination notice on August 22, 2019, the building was not delivered. The legal process continues.

- IMM made a notice of termination on 22 August 2019 for the dormitory building in Kadıköy, Merdivenköy District, the building was not delivered. The legal process continues.

- IMM made a notice of termination on 22 August 2019 for the dormitory building in Gaziosmanpaşa, Merkez Mahallesi, the building was not delivered. The legal process continues.

- IMM made a notice of termination on August 22, 2019 for the dormitory building in Kısıklı Mahallesi, Üsküdar, the building was not delivered. The legal process continues.

- IMM made a notice of termination on 22 August 2019 for the dormitory building in Üsküdar, Küçük Çamlıca Neighborhood, the building was not delivered. The legal process continues.

- For the dormitory building in Üsküdar, Cumhuriyet Mahallesi, IMM made a termination notice on August 22, 2019, the building was not delivered. The legal process continues.

ASITANE ASSOCIATION:
- For the dormitory building in Fatih, Hatice Sultan District, IMM made a termination notice on August 22, 2019, the building was delivered on November 30, 2019.

DARU'L FUNUN THEORY FOUNDATION:
- On August 22, 2019, IMM made a notice of termination for the dormitory building in Fatih, Kalkandere District. The building was evacuated and re-leased at the request of the Health and Hygiene Directorate.

ISTANBUL ENDERUN EDUCATION AND CULTURE FOUNDATION:
- The promotion office rented from the Foundations in Kaba Halil Madrasa was allocated to the IMM Youth and Sports Directorate.

KNOWLEDGE FOUNDATION:
- IMM made a notice of termination on March 3, 2020 for the dormitory building in Eyüp, Silahtarağa Mahallesi, the building was not delivered.

Leader Imam Hatip Association:

- Fatih, IMM made a notice of termination on March 3, 2020 for its central building in Sultanahmet District. The building was received, a letter was written to the IMM Assembly for its allocation to the IETT General Directorate to be used in IETT services.

THEY WILL USE FOR YEARS​

IMM, under AKP rule, has allocated some immovables that are under its own ownership to affiliate foundations and associations.

- The real estate in Pendik, Seyhli Neighborhood was allocated to the Science Spreading Foundation on November 7, 2018. The allocation period will expire in 2043.

- The real estate in Zeytinburnu, Kazlıçeşme Neighborhood was allocated to the Deniz Feneri Aid and Solidarity Association on April 2, 2019. The allocation period will expire in 2029.

- The real estate in Pendik, Dolayoba Neighborhood was allocated free of charge to the Science Dissemination Society on September 17, 2014. The allocation period will expire in 2039.

- The real estate in Fatih, Kariye Mahallesi was allocated to TÜGVA on 12 December 2018. The allocation period will expire in 2043.

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For decades to come conservative muslims will be seen as corrupt people. These guys literally stained the name of Islam and Muslim.

They are the reason of sharp increase of deism and atheism in Turkey.

 

[Elaser]

Just gonna answer once to this Erdofan than block him as he is wasting time.

1-) If you follow this plan, only exporters will be rich and people who works with salaries will stay poor and become poorer.

2-) Turkey can't increase it's exports because already production lines run with %90 capacity to increase exports. Investors need to invest more to factories buy new production lines or open up new factories. Foreign investment is not coming to Turkey anymore as Turkey ceased to be a country ruled by law. People don't want take loans from banks as inflation and loan rates are high. So, there will no capacity increase.

People, who know nothing about economy run their mouth and just make some noise as they think everybody is ignorant like them.

Turkey has no time for pessimists, nihilists and selfhaters...

We will drag you into a bright future whether you like it or not

 

[Vaggos]

Turkey has no time for pessimists, nihilists and selfhaters...

We will drag you into a bright future whether you like it or not

Why do even care? You are Swedish, right?

 

[Ryder]

Us Turks sure do love corruption LOL

 

[GoatsMilk]

Turkish lira hits record low after Erdogan sacks central bank officials​

Turkish lira hits record low after Erdogan sacks central bank officials

President removes two deputy governors in new round of dismissals sending currency down 1%

www.ft.com

breaking records lol.

liras value constantly drepciating, inflation shooting up. Meanwhile foreign exporters are making more money, while the common Turk is becoming poorer. The road is open.

 

[Lool]

Turkish lira hits record low after Erdogan sacks central bank officials​

Turkish lira hits record low after Erdogan sacks central bank officials

President removes two deputy governors in new round of dismissals sending currency down 1%

www.ft.com

breaking records lol.

liras value constantly drepciating, inflation shooting up. Meanwhile foreign exporters are making more money, while the common Turk is becoming poorer. The road is open.

The government is planning to drop the lira to 12 per dollar
Expect more devaluation in the short term

 

[Anastasius]

The government is planning to drop the lira to 12 per dollar
Expect more devaluation in the short term

I'm pretty sure people will start killing government officials in the street if its gets that low. They can't be that stupid.

 

[Lool]

I'm pretty sure people will start killing government officials in the street if its gets that low. They can't be that stupid.

Trust me they will
Even I find it crazy
Erdo is playing with fire over here
But according to TheInsider, the lira will further fall to 12 according to his AKP sources