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See Viktor Yanukovych in Ukraine. There is no other way.
See Viktor Yanukovych in Ukraine. There is no other way.
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that was in old constitution in new one you need 2/3 majorty to impeach the president then matter goes to superim court. of 15 judges 13 of them are selectd by erdogan and 2 of them are selected by parliment !!
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back in old turkey Turkish army was considered as guardian of consititution ! army was charge by ataturk to protect republicism, secularism and democracy of the state. staging a coupe to perform this duty is written in constitution and there is a legal protocol which allow the army to take control of the state legally. the chief of general staff is responsible for this and by law he's action and in-action evaluated and if he found wanting in protecting the republicism, secularism and democracy of the state then he stand trail in military court to answer for his failure.
the protocol is something like this !
1) make a report whether the coup is necessary. if its done when it is not needed then everyone involved will answer in military court !
2) give a warning ake military memorandum if politicions keep violating the constituion
3) make the coup. after the warning ignored, by law turkish army can seize the control of the state !
4) make a elit cabinets from universit professors and prominent members of country and find why system failed and find solution for it. army have only 1 year do to this.
5) put in the new constituion in referandum !
example of this happened before in 1960s when prime minister adnan mandenez was losing the elections the imbalance in constitution gave more power to government then to parliment. mandenez used this to size power the jailed journalist ordered police which was under interior ministery to open fire on protestors by live ammo created what is called the investigation committee filled up by his friend who weren't lawyer nor judges then use the committee to put people in jail and confiscated their property completely bypassing the judiciary. finally in the last attempt to win elections he promise to islamist that he will return caliphate and return muslim call to pray from turkish to back to arabic ! by this point mandenez threatened the republicism, secularism and democracy of the state. with the 1960's coup army put an end to his police state regime later when judges took back their old power the sentence him to death. in new constitution the power of government reduce and power of parliament increased and some right were taken away from interior minister and given back to people including right to assembly !
after this coup people give support and celebrate and give the title of protectors of democracy to the army to end the police state and return the republic to democracy you can watch the video for more footage !
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it wasnt always like this. republicism secularism and democracy is the 3 gift ataturk gave turkish people. turkey did 3 referendum in 10 years 1 in 2007 1 in 2010 which removed secularism and last one in 2017 which remove republicsm from constitution from 180 clauses 140 of them are change. this is people's fault they vote on something they didnt knew what it is. back then the gulenist coup was fresh and erdogan use fear factor to centralized power. he also kept saying i want make your life better but they wont let me the constitution wont let me "give the the power and watch my performance" was his slogan now he arrest the mayor of istanbul he is threating the democracy of the state the people's freedom to choose their leader
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example of islami justice back in 90s erbakan offered 28 şubat generals medina treaty which said there should be no equal law and every group should be jugded by their own law in this fantasy 28 şubat generals were muşrik of mecca and tarikat and cemaat were muslims and erbakan was prophet mohammad !
in their islamist TV channels they make cartoons for children that in sharia law every group judge by their own law !! this is done for perparation of new generation of jihadist who would finally overthrowing the republic
erlik and jahrein commenting on the şeriat cartoon
@Ryder this is a example of islami justice !! that guy was a muslim son of the muslim and he received a muslim punishment by being released on the other hand the other 7 people were kafir who rebelled against islam and received the kafir punishment and go to jail ! ahh islami adalet everyone judged by their own law !!!
in their islamist TV channels they make cartoons for children that in sharia law every group judge by their own law !! this is done for perparation of new generation of jihadist who would finally overthrowing the republic
erlik and jahrein commenting on the şeriat cartoon
@Ryder this is a example of islami justice !! that guy was a muslim son of the muslim and he received a muslim punishment by being released on the other hand the other 7 people were kafir who rebelled against islam and received the kafir punishment and go to jail ! ahh islami adalet everyone judged by their own law !!!
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Drivel!
Rabid foaming heap of steaming bullcrap.
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here vural savaş cumhuriyet başsavcısı talk about islamist wanting blood and erbakan offering medina treaty that every group should be judge by their own law !! just like today were muslims punished by muslim law and released and kafirs are punished by kafir law and go to jail !
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I've never been a fan of him but bravo
I think the most important thing here isn't CHP replacing AKP. It's Turks having enough of shitty leadership. These protests are due to an accumulation of years of frustration. I don't think they're just a message to AKP, but also whichever party replaces them.
AKP's internal and external policies have screwed over the average Turk. Particularly in the past few years, AKP has been all talk, no action. Worst part is the western media keeps talking about Erdoğan as if he's some type of foreign policy mastermind. In reality, he's been pathetic.
I think the most important thing here isn't CHP replacing AKP. It's Turks having enough of shitty leadership. These protests are due to an accumulation of years of frustration. I don't think they're just a message to AKP, but also whichever party replaces them.
AKP's internal and external policies have screwed over the average Turk. Particularly in the past few years, AKP has been all talk, no action. Worst part is the western media keeps talking about Erdoğan as if he's some type of foreign policy mastermind. In reality, he's been pathetic.
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To be fair with Western media, they are comparing him to European leaders like Merkel, Sholtz, David Cameron, Boris Johnson, François Hollande, etc.
So if you have such “leaders” as the benchmark, Erdogan can look like a mastermind…
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Not only that, it's all because Türkiye has a better military, access to fresh water sources, control over bosphorus and is a bridge between east-west... all these attributes make Türkiye a geopolitical powerhouse. With that said the government has completely mismanaged these advantages in its attempt to cling into power.
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mansur yavaş answer to akPKK and MHP meeting with DEM : there is no point in negotiating with DEM ! !
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A geographically critical position for sure, but two big issues (not speaking exclusively):
a) natural resources / energy independence
b) access to open ocean
The irony is that the Ottomans had by far the dominant hand over the Safavids throughout their history (maybe not always I only learn as much as satisfies my curiosities). If they had prioritized controlling the Iranian Plateau, and successfully held it, or at least configured it as a very culturally proximal society like the Balkan Muslim countries. The situation today may have been much more advantageous.
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Mr. Cem Küçük: “Tomorrow is the big day, those who called for a boycott will be called to testify. Murat Daltaban, Emre Kınay and Aybüke Pusat are among those who will be called upon for the boycott call.”
I am almost certain that this journalist knows every single name to testify at every single case even before the DA but I can not prove it
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he must be afried he knows if erdogan go he will stand trail for espionage and treason as well as murdering 40 people in ergenekon and bayloyz as well as 878 turkish agent when his involvement caused the opening of kozmik oda !
Mr. Cem Küçük: “Tomorrow is the big day, those who called for a boycott will be called to testify. Murat Daltaban, Emre Kınay and Aybüke Pusat are among those who will be called upon for the boycott call.”
I am almost certain that this journalist knows every single name to testify at every single case even before the DA but I can not prove it
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the boycott begin today dont even buy a bottle of water today !! all those police and tarikat and cemmat şeriatci thugs who are beating the students in streets as well as AKtrolls such as furkan bölükbaşı as well as abdurrahman uzun and all the pelikan members as well as those who work for sadık albayrak media groups are paid by tax payer money start the boycott so Erdogan cant pay their salary
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erdogan just like Christchurch massacre trying to use gaza to salvage some support from conservatives that he lost due to his recent actions and he shows he is willing to put us all into a diplomatic and geopolitical crisis so he could hold on to power just like he burn 25 billion dollar in 3 days to save his chair he doesnt care about people nor economy nor gaza only his power. these games are getting old
