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[TheInsider]

Elections will be held somewhere between early November 2020 to late march 2023.

 

[Ravenman]

 

[Xenon54]

There are still many fishy things about the coup attempt though, many unanswered questions.
Like akar claiming to be kidnapped that night but not showing up in front of court even once.

The coup night must be investigate throughtly after regime change i dont believe a single word coming from AKP at this point.

Its strange how they started making the whole thing a cult not even a month after, without doing investigations, without court hearings, nothing.

This is the reason why people dont believe anythign anymore because everything thats being said about the coup attempt comes from one single source.

 

[Ravenman]

If it was staged, then the international press and security agencies would bite on it and it would be a second Watergate-scandal.

Especially the French, Greek, German, American, British and Dutch media and secret services.

If it was staged, Western and NATO allies wouldnt wait for hours/days to condemn the coup.

When you read different intels and leaks, you see Russian warnings and intensive communication before the coup and a lot of foreshadowing by Turkish celebrities and fugetives.

I dont think its staged.

Its rather tolerated. I think the AKP was warned about the coming coup and let it happen.

 

[CAN_TR]

There is no way they didn't know about it, they let it happen in order to secure more power for themselves.

 

[Xenon54]

If it was staged, then the international press and security agencies would bite on it and it would be a second Watergate-scandal.

Especially the French, Greek, German, American, British and Dutch media and secret services.

If it was staged, Western and NATO allies wouldnt wait for hours/days to condemn the coup.

When you read different intels and leaks, you see Russian warnings and intensive communication before the coup and a lot of foreshadowing by Turkish celebrities and fugetives.

I dont think its staged.

Its rather tolerated. I think the AKP was warned about the coming coup and let it happen.

Staged, Tolerated call it whatevery you want, its a shameful act where hundreds lost their life all just so Erdogan can have his system change during state of emergency. (Darbe Allahin bize bir lütfu konusu)
These are all highly delicate issues with questionable legal statusses, certainly nothing honorable about it to make it a cult and a public holiday, i am pretty sure one day the truth will come to ligh and this episode will be a strong reminder of this dark era in history of Turkish republic.

 

[Ravenman]

Staged, Tolerated call it whatevery you want, its a shameful act where hundreds lost their life all just so Erdogan can have his system change during state of emergency. (Darbe Allahin bize bir lütfu konusu)
These are all highly delicate issues with questionable legal statusses, certainly nothing honorable about it to make it a cult and a public holiday, i am pretty sure one day the truth will come to ligh and this episode will be a strong reminder of this dark era in history of Turkish republic.

You should blame the coupists, not AKP. They get warned by Russia but i dont think most of them believed it would happen. But they did everything to stop it.

If they didnt get the warning, we would live now under sharia rule with Ayatollah Gülen.

 

[Xenon54]

You should blame the coupists, not AKP. They get warned by Russia but i dont think most of them believed it would happen. But they did everything to stop it.

If they didnt get the warning, we would live now under sharia rule with Ayatollah Gülen.

How come Russia gave any warning? Is our intelligence that incompetent?
Who ever is the government and allow such an act to happen for his personal gains is to be blamed which is Erdogan/AKP.

 

[CAN_TR]

MIT and officials in the Armed Forces are reporting about suspects within the state apparatus since the 80s, there are even documents that mention one person and his movement.

Ex-Generals/Admirals were jailed because of a f*cking letter that warns the state about the importance of Montreux and that it's a sensitive topic or previously because of false accusations of FETO member without any evidence of course.
Some of these important men who gave their life, sacrificed their time and shed blood for this nation where assasinated, killed in prison, hundreds of innocent citizen killed and injured, why?

There is no excuse, no down playing of those incidents, nothing. I'm full of this shit.

 

[Ravenman]

How come Russia gave any warning? Is our intelligence that incompetent?
Who ever is the government and allow such an act to happen for his personal gains is to be blamed which is Erdogan/AKP.

I dont know. A Russian pressmessage 2 days after the coup said that Putin warned Erdogan over the hotline the same day.

The putschist controlled every line of communication so when they saw the warning they started earlier at 21.30 instead of 03.00 after midnight.

The Turkish Foreign Ministry called this news 'fake'.

You cant blame the AKP that they didnt saw this regime change coming, but you can blame the MIT because they didnt crack Bylock.

 

[Ravenman]

Even the most fanatical CHP-journalist opened his eyes about FETO and CHPKK.

 

[Manomed]

I dont know. A Russian pressmessage 2 days after the coup said that Putin warned Erdogan over the hotline the same day.

The putschist controlled every line of communication so when they saw the warning they started earlier at 21.30 instead of 03.00 after midnight.

The Turkish Foreign Ministry called this news 'fake'.

You cant blame the AKP that they didnt saw this regime change coming, but you can blame the MIT because they didnt crack Bylock.

Everyone warned akp why we shouldn't blame them??

 

[CAN_TR]

Everyone warned akp why we shouldn't blame them??

After him dij gücler are responsible for economic crisis, refugee crisis... and the tragic part is that even AKP acknowledged that they made a mistake and were fooled by them but he keeps defending aka fooling himself.

 

[Xenon54]

I dont know. A Russian pressmessage 2 days after the coup said that Putin warned Erdogan over the hotline the same day.

And since when are the russian press credible in any way?

You cant blame the AKP that they didnt saw this regime change coming, but you can blame the MIT because they didnt crack Bylock.

AKP made them so big to begin with, all of the blame goes to AKP none else, this party should be closed for supporting a terrorist organization.

 

[Ravenman]

Everyone supported him.

 

[Xenon54]

Everyone supported him.

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One picture means nothing, the man was a prominent figure in politics.
Important is who gave him power and grew his organization by illegal means.

 

[Ravenman]

After him dij gücler are responsible for economic crisis, refugee crisis... and the tragic part is that even AKP acknowledged that they made a mistake and were fooled by them but he keeps defending aka fooling himself.

At least AKP, MHP and their followers and non-following patriots fought against the putschists and tried to stop them by blocking the tanks.

CHP and HDP supporters did nothing except running to the ATM's and groceriestores to buy spagetti.

This is a good foreshadowing of how a liberal/marxist/socialist/transgender will behave in times of war.

Best for the TSK is to not make a difference between these traitors and the foreign enemy.

 

[Manomed]

At least AKP, MHP and their followers and non-following patriots fought against the putschists and tried to stop them by blocking the tanks.

CHP and HDP supporters did nothing except running to the ATM's and groceriestores to buy spagetti.

This is a good foreshadowing of how a liberal/marxist/socialist/transgender will behave in times of war.

Best for the TSK is to not make a difference between these traitors and the foreign enemy.

Most of the army didn't even take part in the coup

 

[Xenon54]

At least AKP, MHP and their followers and non-following patriots fought against the putschists and tried to stop them by blocking the tanks.

CHP and HDP supporters did nothing except running to the ATM's and groceriestores to buy spagetti.

This is a good foreshadowing of how a liberal/marxist/socialist/transgender will behave in times of war.

Best for the TSK is to not make a difference between these traitors and the foreign enemy.

If we start sending military against traitors then i see bad days ahead for AKP.

 

[TheInsider]

I'm leaving the bomb here. AKP is considering a new peace process. AKP cadres are trying to convince the MHP administration. This extremely confidential info came to me via a district head of the AKP that has higher connections inside the AKP. If MHP agrees (there is 0 chance) this will very likely trigger a big voter exodus from the AKP and MHP. According to him, AKP will try to sugarcoat this as a civilian movement if AKP and MHP agree to start the new peace process.