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I'm really wondering when the patience of the average Turkish citizen will run out. Your neighbors had civil wars over much less.
 
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"I don't live in Turkey but I love watching Erdogan being treated like a sultan when he goes to Muslim countries. He is a 7D chess player, even a French newspaper said so! I also couldn't give less of a fuck about the economy, as long as everything is cheap when I go there for my yearly holiday"


Bro please on a serious note, Türkiye is punching way way below its weight. You think it's the opposite but it's not. Think about this. Atatürk took what remained of a dead empire and defeated 7 armies, including the strongest in the world to create the republic. Then in the 70s half of Cyprus was captured by the military. In the 90s Türkiye was clashing with PKK in Iraq and teaching Greece a lesson over the Aegean. Both Greece and Syria back down when Türkiye threatened war.

The defence industry was already booming by 90s with Cobras, MLRS and ballistic missiles being produced. Erdoğan just came at a good time. Like all dictators, he only views the military as two things. A threat to himself and a tool for political propaganda.

Erdoğan inherited a nation with the greatest military history in existence, a highly competent army, a booming defence sector, a nation that is on the most strategic land in the world and borders two failed states and one failing state which have large Turkic minorities. Yet all that's happened is Kurdistan has been established in both failed states, with Erdo's own İslamist buddies backstabbing him in Syria. Meanwhile, Iran continues to give PKK weapons that can shoot down MALE UCAVs and Türkiye just responds to Iran with sweet words.

What a joke, sad to see Türkiye in this state.

@Tonyukuk you can add this video to erdogan as well !!
 
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Interesting point is the flag for this operation has been carried on the media front mostly by ROK and Cem Küçük. The methods and mo are very familiar, same players involved.
ROK and Cem Küçük have blood of 878 people on their hand they were the media generals of psychological war on army during ergenekon and balyoz kumpas trails they along with nagehan alçi and hilal kaplan paved the way for opening of kozmik oda !
 

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To hell with Ekrem.

I dont like queer politicians. Same as Selahattin Demirtaş, another queer.

Not only there bodylanguage, but the fact that both of them are Pride-movement activists, to the extreme, say enough for me.

If i can choose between a corrupt islamist and a leftist culture-marxist (feminism, trotskism, communism, genderneutralism, transgenderism, LHBTQ+AFCRT), i always prefer the corrupt islamist. At least i know that my asshole is protected and that the woman to who i speak in the restaurant is a real woman and not a man with boobs.
Yeah, I'm done. Get out of here with this bullshit.
 

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Nothing says a purely legal case from an independent judiciary like blocking the internet, banning protests, bringing police from other provinces from days before, threatening journalists who report the case, and trying desperately to hammer home the point that this is somehow a terrorism and criminal organization case (to give you excuse to appoint a trustee) by raiding the house of a civilian with hundreds of police in gear for someone for whom you have zero evidence of armed resistance or escape.
 

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ROK and Cem Küçük have blood of 878 people on their hand they were the media generals of psychological war on army during ergenekon and balyoz kumpas trails they along with nagehan alçi and hilal kaplan paved the way for opening of kozmik oda !
Hilal Kaplan and Nagehan Alçı have a history of sharing their views verbatim and exact parallels in how they've changed them, with regards to a very strong emphasis on Armenian 'genocide', oppression of Kurds, Ergenekon-Balyoz, against tutelage, etc. before and after 2016.
 

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It seems my previous statement is slowly becoming correct

As I said before, the crooks who supported Imamoglu were the ones who betrayed him and sold him to Erdogan in return for greater power

Erdogan isnt an idiot or he would have died long ago. Whether you like him or not, we must admit that he played this game for more than 20 years and is already a master at it. He knows that there will be rising public unrest if he ever arrested Imamoglu without reason and yet he did so anyways and this may imply that Erdogan has some serious evidence regarding Imamoglu along with some of his cronies that even Imamoglu himself cant escape from

This also explains why Imamoglu initiated this early presidential candidate fiasco, 4 years before the election even begins. He probably got a tip that some1 from his circle betrayed him and so he turned the story into a public case in order to pressure Erdogan to leave him alone

Erdogan is admitting that it was the CHP that sold data about Imamoglu to the police👇
"They are also aware that most of the information and documents (investigation into corruption and terrorism against the Istanbul Metropolitan Municipality) were transferred to the judiciary by their own party members"

 

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Nothing says a purely legal case from an independent judiciary like blocking the internet, banning protests, bringing police from other provinces from days before, threatening journalists who report the case, and trying desperately to hammer home the point that this is somehow a terrorism and criminal organization case (to give you excuse to appoint a trustee) by raiding the house of a civilian with hundreds of police in gear for someone for whom you have zero evidence of armed resistance or escape.
There are no purely legal case in whole world now.....

US,Korea,EU,Japan are same...
 

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It seems my previous statement is slowly becoming correct

As I said before, the crooks who supported Imamoglu were the ones who betrayed him and sold him to Erdogan in return for greater power

Erdogan isnt an idiot or he would have died long ago. Whether you like him or not, we must admit that he played this game for more than 20 years and is already a master at it. He knows that there will be rising public unrest if he ever arrested Imamoglu without reason and yet he did so anyways and this may imply that Erdogan has some serious evidence regarding Imamoglu along with some of his cronies that even Imamoglu himself cant escape from

This also explains why Imamoglu initiated this early presidential candidate fiasco, 4 years before the election even begins. He probably got a tip that some1 from his circle betrayed him and so he turned the story into a public case in order to pressure Erdogan to leave him alone

Erdogan is admitting that it was the CHP that sold data about Imamoglu to the police👇
"They are also aware that most of the information and documents (investigation into corruption and terrorism against the Istanbul Metropolitan Municipality) were transferred to the judiciary by their own party members"

Hmm but can the the diploma cancellation and its timing coinciding be explained by CHP infighting as well? Dunno
 

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lol

thats not Istanbul, since when do they have rocky hill in Istanbul with a fort?
Who said it was in İstanbul?

It's somewhere within Türkiye's borders and the government is allowing it.

Edit: I literally said in the southeast, where did you pull Istanbul from?
 

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Who said it was in İstanbul?

It's somewhere within Türkiye's borders and the government is allowing it.

Edit: I literally said in the southeast, where did you pull Istanbul from?


sorry looks old footage because the East of Turkiye wher they come from means snow now. Probably Hakkari or Sirnak, a lot off misinformation is going on socialmedia.
 

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Hmm but can the the diploma cancellation and its timing coinciding be explained by CHP infighting as well? Dunno
Probably but nothing is certain yet as it may be nothing more than Erdo oppressing his competitor but I honestly dont believe that Erdo is this stupid

As I said before, I always found it weird that Imamoglu started this crazy presidential candidate stuff 4 years before the election, it just doesnt make sense and as I believe that nothing in this world is purely coincidence, the only thing that happened before Imamoglu's crazy stunt is the diploma issue and that is why I believe that Imamoglu's diploma is fake

It is highly likely that some circles, within the CHP, that dont like Imamoglu ratted him out to the AKP; thus, giving the AKP leverage against Imamoglu. Imamoglu, being afraid of getting caught, probably started this presidential candidate drama in order to shift the case of corruption against him into one of public opinion and oppression. In other words, Imamoglu most likely is using "democracy" as a shield to escape/prevent Erdogan from arresting him using the info he got from anti-Imamoglu circles within the CHP



What makes me believe this theory is that Erdogan himself stated that they arrested Imamoglu based on info obtained from within the CHP and Imamoglu's wife reportedly stated that Ekrem Imamoglu said to her that the police is gonna come for him before even beginning his CHP's presidential candidate drama and that she should ask the people to go to the streets to resist the police's decision and this is clearly proven by how she takes videos in front of Ataturk portrait and then in another video with a headscarf etc..... she is trying to create public unrest to threaten Erdogan and strengthen Ekrem's cause



Nothing short of a third rate political drama. The main idea is to create public unrest and force the police to lay their hands on protestors so that the opposition can have legitimacy when they cry "oppression" but it seems that Erdogan is still kepping calm for now. However, the longer it takes for Erdo to react, the worse it will be for the CHP as the anger will slowly subside and this is what is beginning to happen rn👇


 
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Live for the day we're free of Islamists, Uncle Mehmet sell-outs and whatever new skirt the PKK likes to wear.
 
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lira lost 10% of its value recently ! investors are withdriving their money central bank burned 10 billion dollars to stabilized the situation and we dont know whether it will work or not ! 10 billions in few days all because erdo wants to save his chair what level of selfishness in this situation of critical economical crisis !
 
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Treats Turks like enemies, but Kurdish terroist supporters are free!

AKP = Arap-Kürt Partisi
the level of their anti turkism and racisms of AKP against turkish people, you can only find that in neo Nazis and they consider this a normal thing ! in their ideology for islam to survive anything relate to turkish culture and identity must die so islam could live ! that was their goal since time of erbakan ! one of the 18 demand of 28th şubat generals from erbakan was to combat ummah ideology !



this is how Erdogan treats the turks running from Bulgarian slaughter when he was mayor of istanbul ! ! he says why are taking them in !!!!

erdogan is a racisist neo nazi like other AKP members
 
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There are no purely legal case in whole world now.....

US,Korea,EU,Japan are same...
Yes everything is the same as everything else.

In EU, U.S. Korea and Japan, there are hundreds of similar cases of opposition leaders thrown in jail while the government limits bandwidth to social media websites (even in fucking Serbia this wasn't done) and journalists close to the ruling party (same flagbearers of the operations conducted by the stooges of foreign intelligence services o hollow out the armed forces from 'undesirable' independent patriotic elements) threaten opposition figures and journalists citing from content of various lawsuits to which somehow they have access.

One cannot also compare and contrast various levels of corruption and politicization of judiciary in different countries as every country is the same. It's not like we've been descending through the ranks in all conceivable indices of rule of law to the level of sub-Saharan African countries.
 
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