TR Politics

[mTT]

I think these fuckers all work together hand in hand behind closed doors. Controlled opposition or whatever its called.

There’s no need for something like ‘controlled opposition’; being in the opposition is the world’s easiest job. Whatever the government does, just say the opposite and move on. Now and then, make a flashy statement or two, then start looking for a weekend getaway.

 

[Strong AI]

Erdoğan wiped out all political parties with his newly founded party in 2002 and came to power. I cannot see a leader in today's Turkey who can defeat Erdoğan. There is a need for a party that will enter the elections from scratch like in the 2002 elections, but there is no leader in Türkiye who can do this.

In the last election they (opposition) had one shot, but they decided to shoot themselves. Like come on, KK, really...

 

[Rooxbar]

 

[mTT]

CHP has neither the intelligence nor the program to come to power. They are bringing back the man they fired 5 years ago.

Muharrem İnce announced that he has returned to the CHP.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1937401577322463291

Would they make him the head of the party? I highly doubt it.

 

[uçuyorum]

Muharrem İnce announced that he has returned to the CHP.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1937401577322463291

Would they make him the head of the party? I highly doubt it.

He didn't perform well in elections. He reprents an important group within chp but he is not cut out for leadership. His joining is a symbol for a returning voice of more traditional chp and unity among different segments of chp

 

[TheInsider]

A trustee is expected to be appointed as the president of CHP if no last-minute arrangements are made. As I said before, we are in a de facto dictatorship.

 

[No Name]

A trustee is expected to be appointed as the president of CHP if no last-minute arrangements are made. As I said before, we are in a de facto dictatorship.

Is this what you are talking about?

Former CHP leader draws ire with remarks hinting at a comeback to chairmanship via a court order.

 

[TheInsider]

Is this what you are talking about?

Former CHP leader draws ire with remarks hinting at a comeback to chairmanship via a court order.

Yes.

 

[Lool]

It doesn't matter; getting rid of Erdogan has utmost importance. After a few years, new elections can be held to decide who will govern.

You seriously believe that Erdogan will be kicked out when you have an opposition headed by the likes of Ozgur Ozel and his cronies?

I still remember when Fatih Altayli, who many CHP members adore, used to say that KAAN will never be able to take off as it is nothing more than a propaganda machine
I even remember when CHP MPs visited TOGG factory and stated that there is no need for a national vehicle as Turkey already produces foreign cars etc...

For Erdogan to be kicked out of office, the CHP needs to be erased from this earth and a new CLEAN party should lead the opposition

Till this day I wonder why on earth didnt they elect Mansur Yavas as the Opposition's presidential candidate? Yavas has better reputation, more popularity, and is liked by people both on the right and left of the political spectrum compared to a third-rate clown like Imamoglu.

If Yavas formed his own party, then the president from 2028 onwards will be Mansur Yavas

 

[TheInsider]

The shortcomings of CHP are not important right now. Getting rid of Erdogan is at the top of the priority list. Those issues are problems of tomorrow, and it will be so easy to fix them when the time comes. Because CHP doesn't have the same hold on the state apparatus as AKP does. Turkiye is on its road to a single-party state and a de facto dictatorship, and Erdogan has travelled 80% of that road.

After a lost battle, Napoleon asked one of his generals why the battle was lost. General answered There are 5 reasons, Your Majesty. The first one is that we run out of gunpowder. Napoleon said That's enough, you don't need to tell the rest. It is the same for Türkiye; we have a huge Erdogan problem, and everything looks unimpressive compared to that colossal issue. Everything is secondary until that problem is fixed because it is a problem that blocks the fixing of other problems.

 

[uçuyorum]

The shortcomings of CHP are not important right now. Getting rid of Erdogan is at the top of the priority list. Those issues are problems of tomorrow, and it will be so easy to fix them when the time comes. Because CHP doesn't have the same hold on the state apparatus as AKP does. Turkiye is on its road to a single-party state and a de facto dictatorship, and Erdogan has travelled 80% of that road.

After a lost battle, Napoleon asked one of his generals why the battle was lost. General answered There are 5 reasons, Your Majesty. The first one is that we run out of gunpowder. Napoleon said That's enough, you don't need to tell the rest. It is the same for Türkiye; we have a huge Erdogan problem, and everything looks unimpressive compared to that colossal issue. Everything is secondary until that problem is fixed because it is a problem that blocks the fixing of other problems.

I think by that logic CHP is an empty storage of gun powder. Everyone was always so fixated at the incumbent, no one bothered to fix their act. Now CHP is fixing itself a little and gaining traction and they are trying to stop that and sabotage it and revert it to the docile useless silent party that it was. Meanwhile decades passed. If they got their act together and tried to change old tactics that are provent not to work and just trying to protect short term interest of small insider groups, imagine how history would have played out.


That's sort of like having crippling anxiety. You are so fixated on something you are like I cant eat rn I cant brush my teeth rn when I have exam tomorrow etc but in an institutional level. Whereas healthy people need to be able to take time to focus on themselves regardless.

 

[GoatsMilk]

I think these fuckers all work together hand in hand behind closed doors. Controlled opposition or whatever its called.

for the most part i think we hit a point in Turkiye where the political spectrum is no more then theatre. If the Turkish army had been taken over, the western financed and backed islamist classes of Turkiye would have never done their US/EU backed bidding to remove the armies protection of the state. Since it would have been easier to undermine the state centrally from the military. But alas it seemed like the patriots were too strong within that institution. So the anglo-american zionist axis had their power removed and false cases brought up to put them in jail.

My concern about AK party is that they may be making deals with the Americans telling them you don't need to attack or destroy Turkiye, we will create Kurdistan within Turkish land peacefully. It would explain how in two decades all the islamists have done when it came to the PKK was open their arses towards them. Even though every fool can see the kurdistan project is a zionist project.

It would also explain why Turkiye became the worlds global dumbing ground for migrants under the islamists, when everyones in the west knows that mass migrations is also a zionist project. I sometimes think the reason erdogan talks so much shit against Isreal, is because off camera they know its all theatre to fool the masses.

The British Prince of Jordon does the same, he even goes to the UN and condemns Isreal. But he is 100% a zionist shill.

 

[TheInsider]

I think by that logic CHP is an empty storage of gun powder. Everyone was always so fixated at the incumbent, no one bothered to fix their act. Now CHP is fixing itself a little and gaining traction and they are trying to stop that and sabotage it and revert it to the docile useless silent party that it was. Meanwhile decades passed. If they got their act together and tried to change old tactics that are provent not to work and just trying to protect short term interest of small insider groups, imagine how history would have played out.


That's sort of like having crippling anxiety. You are so fixated on something you are like I cant eat rn I cant brush my teeth rn when I have exam tomorrow etc but in an institutional level. Whereas healthy people need to be able to take time to focus on themselves regardless.

When you have cancer, you don't think about your sprained ankle.

178 TAF officers arrested in recent FETO operations. The list includes 11 colonels, 10 UAV pilots ranked captain and major, and the adjutant officer of the defense minister. You can listen to the details in the video. Corruption is rampant in the state apparatus, and the situation is also deteriorating in the armed forces day by day. You may choose not to see this because your favorite political party is at the helm, and you want it to stay that way, but the consequences are too big to ignore. The rot is too deep, and cleaning it while Erdogan is at the helm is impossible. FETO is just an example; there is a truckload of issues. I gave this example because AKP is supposed to fight against FETO.

 

[uçuyorum]

When you have cancer, you don't think about your sprained ankle.

178 TAF officers arrested in recent FETO operations. The list includes 11 colonels, 10 UAV pilots ranked captain and major, and the adjutant officer of the defense minister. You can listen to the details in the video. Corruption is rampant in the state apparatus, and the situation is also deteriorating in the armed forces day by day. You may choose not to see this because your favorite political party is at the helm, and you want it to stay that way, but the consequences are too big to ignore. The rot is too deep, and cleaning it while Erdogan is at the helm is impossible. FETO is just an example; there is a truckload of issues. I gave this example because AKP is supposed to fight against FETO.

It's not a sprained ankle. The opposition parties are just as core to the problem. Imagine if they take over finally after years and then fail to govern in an epic fail and we get 100 more years of this on the following election. CHP needs to fix itself rapidly, cut the gangrenous dinosaurs and get new blood. Need to get rid of kilicdaroglu cultists

 

[Anastasius]

This sounds too similar to what some people in Azerbaijan say about Aliyev’s grip on power. I’ve come around to the idea that the mere process of change in government can kickstart an automatic process of house cleaning that is not possible when the same people are running the show for 20+ years.

CHP may suck in their own way but present multiple routes to fixing things that are not available with AKP.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

So a magazine drew a comic of Muhammad and now Islamists are threatening civil war, some have threatened to spill the blood of all Kemalists.

Yes that magazine did something provocative, but we can't deny that these types of extremists are a parallel threat along with Kurdish separatists.

These are all sponsored by our enemies and the worst part is the government is supporting and benefiting off both sides.

This internal situation needs to be fixed as soon as possible.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1939787114872238084

 

[Anastasius]

Ask these people to cite where exactly in the Quran it says that depictions of prophet Muhammad are forbidden.

Not only does it not say that but even besides that the purpose of this rule was to discourage people from worshiping other humans - idolatry in effect. By reacting like this, they are putting a mere man - prophet Muhammad - above his station. They are committing idolatry themselves.

Also this means that depictions of all the prophets are technically punishable. Yet I don't see these clowns demanding that Brazil tear down Christ the Redeemer.

 

[Ryder]

Leman has always be known to make offensive cartoons.

They constantly mocked Turkish national identity along with religion numerous.

Since they depicted two Prophets of God they managed to fire up Islamists, Conservatives and the religious crowd.

They literally hit an own goal. 100% they knew what they were doing. Even if a Turk doesnt practice Islam properly it is enough to fire them up.

Turkiye has a lot of mili degers which is vatan, national identity, religion like Islam. Ataturk is also the founder of the Turkish republic which is also a mili deger. You cant mock Mili degers to a lot of Turks they have customs and values which they value as sacred.

Nihal Atsiz despite being Anti Islamic and his criticism of Islam he never stooped to the level to mock it and make fun of it as he believes a lot of Turks believe it as a deger which cant be mocked.

Lemans has always been known for tasteless cartoons. They really pissed off everybody. They have no mili degers at all to them everything has to be mocked. They are assholes.

But man was it worth ransacking and looting thats what those Lemans idiots want. Our people dont know how to think they quickly get too emotional.

I do feel like the issue has played into Akps hands perfectly as they will use it to fear monger their voters.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

I don't know much about Leman, I'm not going out of my way to support them or rheir provocative cartoon.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1939783741276070317

But if you're telling me that Islamists chimped out over this image, I'm sorry to say but we're dealing with a bunch of absolute dimwits who shouldn't even be allowed to drive a car, let alone run a nation.

Nearly every week some Islamists will openly insult Atatürk, just a few days ago a Kurdish Islamist attacked an Atatürk statue. Sure, people condemned it, but that's about it. And here you have a hundreds of thousands, if nor millions who are threatening to cut off the heads of anyone who idenfies as a Kemalist.

These people are a threat to national security and no doubt backed by foreign intelligence agencies. Instability across the Islamic world has been spread by these types. Too stupid, too emotional and too naive, nothing good can happen when their mindset takes over a nation.

 

[Ryder]

What surprises me how fanatical erdogan supporters never attacked their headquarters.

They made so many offensive Erdogan cartoons.

Im really surprised. Leman has always been known to piss people off im really surprised how they got away with it especially how angry Turks can be a lot of the times.