Abdul Hamid II was not a great leader. Still, it wasn't he who lost those territories, but the Young Ottomans movement, which was created by idiots who thought that they could keep the empire together by transforming the empire into a democratic state while ignoring the fact that the minorities far outnumbered the Turkish population.
They lost the war to Russia, and when the Russian army was at the gates of Istanbul, Abdul Hamid II made a deal with Britain and France to save what was left of the empire.
Parliament opened December 23, 1876 and closed February 13, 1878
it was opened just for 2 years which followed by 30 years of istibdat era of Abdul Hamid II.
parliament did not have authority on making wars or govern, that authority lies with Abdul Hamid II.
following territories lost during istibdat era of Abdul Hamid II after parliment were closed !
you said young turks did that but young turks founded in 1889 and and came to power in 1908 and take over in 1909 via coup and finally deposing him. so WTF are you talking about ??
Additionally, the context of Ottoman Islamism and the actions of the AKP party are entirely different. For the Ottoman state, Islamism was necessary, as the population of the Ottoman Empire was approximately 31.7 million, with Turks comprising around 9 million to 10 million, which accounted for 28.39% to 31.54% of the population.
according to ottoman archive Turkish population before ww1 was 15 million with 10 million in Anatolia alone and 5 million in other eras
you forgot about the military getting involved in 1971 and the 1990s, both are called Coups.
WHAT ?? these are not coup and army did not take over the state. if you say its a coup then ok plz tell me exactly date that coup happened ?? the exact day
As for the military returning power to the civilian government, I never said that they didn't. I just pointed out that the fact that the military needed to intervene was a sign that the system wasn't functioning as it should. It reveals institutional weakness that necessitated a coup in the first place.
the first coup in 1960 maybe but its due to the mistake in constitution which later fixed that doesn't mean republic system is fundamentally flawed the the second coup was necessary due to the cold war interference by superpowers which btw can happen even in monarchist system and did happened during Abdul Hamid II's istibdad era
so you cherry pick 1 event and blame the republic system never works while ignoring all the other factors that lead to that event what a logic , so accordance to your logic the monarchist system fundamentally flawed and will never work because of all the lose of Abdul Hamid II
Again, you didn't disprove anything. A single-party state is still classified as a dictatorship.
according to whom ?? from 1955 to 1993 japan was single-party system democracy with internal factions the party in charge was LDP WTF are you talking about ???
You keep saying that the system was fine, but it wasn't; the political system was constantly unstable and and the military, as you pointed out, needed to get involved constantly.
army made only 2 coup one in 1960 and on in 1980 the second one was due to the cold war era foreign involvement in Turkish politics which btw as i point out before i could and did happened during Abdul Hamid II so we should concluded monarchism never work ??
The battle against Islamists isn't a new thing the Americans brought to Turkey; it has been around since Ottoman times. Islamists killed several sultans for trying to modernise the state, and they have long been in the background, trying to hollow out all the state institutions for their own benefit while using populism to do so.
that islamism and this islamism is not same thing the ottoman era islamism was turkish islamism which ended by atatürk the current islamism is new islamism created shaped and funded by Americans to combat communism which base on teaching of hassan al banna and sayyid qutb this is a post ww2 islamism those 2 are not same thing
The Constitution, like all constitutions, is nothing but a piece of paper that we have seen all across the world. When governments hollow out institutions, constitutions no longer hold much meaning.
anywhere else doesn't interest me constitutions in turkey hold even after Erdogan came to power the collapsed started from 2010 now we are living in post republic era which is unprecedented and and AKP created by permission of Americans.
This is why today's monarchies are the least corrupt nations on earth; the shit absolute monarchies in the Middle East are less corrupt than their republic counterparts.
I see you went to the Erdogan school of winning an argument just accuse everyone that has a different world view as you as a CIA backed Feto agents.
also i not to sure what you mean by young Turks if this is about an earlier discussion i have forgotten it.
where did i heard your misinformations before ?? oh yeah it was near 2010 referendum when there was Çözüm Süreci and ergenekon and balyoz trail and anti republic propaganda was on full swing. oh wait we are near new referandum with new Çözüm Süreci and again with new anti republic misinformation and propaganda campaign
this from you shooting at sight from that zaza seems you are all getting bolder by recent development
also i not to sure what you mean by young Turks if this is about an earlier discussion i have forgotten it.
ofc you did i wont wonder if you forget to answer this post as well
