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[Bogeyman]

@Zafer , @Bogeyman , @Lool

Give some explanation on this news? PKK terrorists are being freed, they hold rallies on the streets, now your government won’t even police the Southeast of the country… Weren’t they “Yerli ve milli”? Why are you guys licking PKKs balls?

You did these stupidities once in 2013 and later Turkey lost thousands of soldiers and civilians to fight terrorists and now you are doing it again. You are not stupid so why do you do this again?

In the 2023 elections, the CHP initially formed an alliance with the HDP. In the second round of the elections, a Zafer Party + CHP + HDP alliance was formed.

So, when it comes to taking Erdoğan's seat, it's not a problem for the HDP and Ümit Özdağ to get into bed together, right?

Then what arrogance, what haughtiness! Before you belittle Erdoğan, look in the mirror. You are walking the same path he is walking. Stop treating people like fools.

Before, during, and after the trench operations, CHP members were constantly in the streets for the PKK, constantly demanding that the state stop the operations. Ignoring this, and then forgetting our martyred soldiers as election time approaches, and entering into a unity of action and rhetoric – how do we reconcile this? Since it won't be difficult for you to do the same things when the 2028 elections come, what justifies your acting as if you are innocent today?

Before listing the sins of the other side, confront your own demons.
Will you normalize an election alliance with the PKK when you vote?

 

[Zafer]

Checkpoints are installed and removed as necessary. Now we are living in a period of time when checkpoints became redundant. So until the next time they maybe usefull they won't be out there.

 

[I_Love_F16]

In the 2023 elections, the CHP initially formed an alliance with the HDP. In the second round of the elections, a Zafer Party + CHP + HDP alliance was formed.

So, when it comes to taking Erdoğan's seat, it's not a problem for the HDP and Ümit Özdağ to get into bed together, right?

Then what arrogance, what haughtiness! Before you belittle Erdoğan, look in the mirror. You are walking the same path he is walking. Stop treating people like fools.

Before, during, and after the trench operations, CHP members were constantly in the streets for the PKK, constantly demanding that the state stop the operations. Ignoring this, and then forgetting our martyred soldiers as election time approaches, and entering into a unity of action and rhetoric – how do we reconcile this? Since it won't be difficult for you to do the same things when the 2028 elections come, what justifies your acting as if you are innocent today?

Before listing the sins of the other side, confront your own demons.
Will you normalize an election alliance with the PKK when you vote?

You are defending the undefendable yet again. If others did something questionable, it doesn’t mean you can or should do the same thing. Do you guys realize that we are going to get nowhere with this mentality ?

 

[Bogeyman]

You are defending the undefendable yet again. If others did something questionable, it doesn’t mean you can or should do the same thing. Do you guys realize that we are going to get nowhere with this mentality ?

There's a saying, 'One who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones at another's,' do you know it?

If you consider yourself worthy of speaking and claim you can "pass judgment," then your own hands must be clean first. If your hands are not clean, and you are committing the same sin as the person you are cursing, then you cannot be arrogant. You cannot pass judgment on the other side. Otherwise, you will be treating the people who would engage with you as fools.

 

[SCAR]

In the 2023 elections, the CHP initially formed an alliance with the HDP. In the second round of the elections, a Zafer Party + CHP + HDP alliance was formed.

So, when it comes to taking Erdoğan's seat, it's not a problem for the HDP and Ümit Özdağ to get into bed together, right?

Then what arrogance, what haughtiness! Before you belittle Erdoğan, look in the mirror. You are walking the same path he is walking. Stop treating people like fools.

Before, during, and after the trench operations, CHP members were constantly in the streets for the PKK, constantly demanding that the state stop the operations. Ignoring this, and then forgetting our martyred soldiers as election time approaches, and entering into a unity of action and rhetoric – how do we reconcile this? Since it won't be difficult for you to do the same things when the 2028 elections come, what justifies your acting as if you are innocent today?

Before listing the sins of the other side, confront your own demons.
Will you normalize an election alliance with the PKK when you vote?

No one can compare the present situation regarding the pkk with the past. Never before in history have the pkk and its buffoonish leader been praised to such an extent; never before has he been called the "Great Leader," and never before have posters of the pkk and its buffoonish leader been proudly displayed in the heart of Istanbul.

 

[Bogeyman]

There's a saying, 'One who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones at another's,' do you know it?

If you consider yourself worthy of speaking and claim you can "pass judgment," then your own hands must be clean first. If your hands are not clean, and you are committing the same sin as the person you are cursing, then you cannot be arrogant. You cannot pass judgment on the other side. Otherwise, you will be treating the people who would engage with you as fools.

Let's make something clear here. We are not politicians, nor are we involved in politics. Therefore, you cannot label me or anyone else as a professional politician. However, if you put forward an idea, you are responsible for that idea. If you see yourself as superior because of your idea and believe you have the right to judge people, you shouldn't be afraid of people questioning where and how you voted.

Therefore, for the reasons I mentioned above, if you cannot legitimize your own idea, you have no right to question mine.

Meanwhile, I dedicate these writings to those who personalize the issue by focusing on me personally.

Those who discuss national politics rather than me personally when debating with me are excluded from this.
@I_Love_F16 @Deliorman

 

[Bogeyman]

No one can compare the present situation regarding the pkk with the past. Never before in history have the pkk and its buffoonish leader been praised to such an extent; never before has he been called the "Great Leader," and never before have posters of the pkk and its buffoonish leader been proudly displayed in the heart of Istanbul.

Never before in history has the PKK fallen so far behind in its ambition to establish a state. Don't show me those two hanging posters. Even the US abandoned the PKK in Syria and Iraq thanks to today's policies. In 2008, you were forced to end Operation Sun against the PKK in Northern Iraq because of the US embargo. In Iran, Erdoğan said, "If you engage with the PKK, we will strike the PKK," and we ended the US operation in Iran. Today, even Mossad is crying because they missed a century's opportunity because of Erdoğan. Instead of getting into ridiculous crises, lift your head and look around.

 

[SCAR]

Never before in history has the PKK fallen so far behind in its ambition to establish a state. Don't show me those two hanging posters. Even the US abandoned the PKK in Syria and Iraq thanks to today's policies. In 2008, you were forced to end Operation Sun against the PKK in Northern Iraq because of the US embargo. In Iran, Erdoğan said, "If you engage with the PKK, we will strike the PKK," and we ended the US operation in Iran. Today, even Mossad is crying because they missed a century's opportunity because of Erdoğan. Instead of getting into ridiculous crises, lift your head and look around.

BS

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Never before in history has the PKK fallen so far behind in its ambition to establish a state. Don't show me those two hanging posters. Even the US abandoned the PKK in Syria and Iraq thanks to today's policies. In 2008, you were forced to end Operation Sun against the PKK in Northern Iraq because of the US embargo. In Iran, Erdoğan said, "If you engage with the PKK, we will strike the PKK," and we ended the US operation in Iran. Today, even Mossad is crying because they missed a century's opportunity because of Erdoğan. Instead of getting into ridiculous crises, lift your head and look around.

Dude Türkiye is literally heading towards becoming a federation with full autonomy given to Kurds. All of this has been inched along for years, at first it was twisted in a nationalist narrative fused with Neo-Ottomanism, now it's just out in the open.

PKK has never been this strong. Their goal of autonomy has defacto been granted and you can freely walk around Türkiye with a poster of öcalan, maybe you'll get attacked but the police will support you. This is what Türkiye has become.

Terrorists have officially been legitimized and huge compromises have been made to them.

You say that Türkiye didn't allow the US to use PKK against Iran and many others rave on about foreign policy, but the interal situation is just f*cked, there's no defending it.

When the FPV drones start causing chaos accross the nation I'll quote this post. This peace process has made them politically stronger than ever, but they'll also recoup their arms like never before, all under the governments supervision.

All I'm going to say is I don't know if it's naivety or treason, but it's sad to see how many government supporters are openly supporting the American agenda for Türkiye, as if it's fully benevolent.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Dude Türkiye is literally heading towards becoming a federation with full autonomy given to Kurds. All of this has been inched along for years, at first it was twisted in a nationalist narrative fused with Neo-Ottomanism, now it's just out in the open.

PKK has never been this strong. Their goal of autonomy has defacto been granted and you can freely walk around Türkiye with a poster of öcalan, maybe you'll get attacked but the police will support you. This is what Türkiye has become.

Terrorists have officially been legitimized and huge compromises have been made to them.

You say that Türkiye didn't allow the US to use PKK against Iran and many others rave on about foreign policy, but the interal situation is just f*cked, there's no defending it.

When the FPV drones start causing chaos accross the nation I'll quote this post. This peace process has made them politically stronger than ever, but they'll also recoup their arms like never before, all under the governments supervision.

All I'm going to say is I don't know if it's naivety or treason, but it's sad to see how many government supporters are openly supporting the American adgenda for Türkiye, as if it's fully benevolent.

To add to this, a lot of people point towards the defence industry as being evidence that things are going well.

What's ignored here is that billions are pumped into Türkiye to socially engineer it away from being a united, secular nation state and steer it towards a divided, backwards nation that will ultimately disintegrate into a rump state, just as the Sevres treaty intended.

There are high level officials serving in the government right now that are on the payroll, including Yusuf Tekin, Akın Gürek, Mustafa Çiftci and the fake opposition leader Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu. They've been heavily funded by Saudi Arabia for years now.

No one in the region actually wants a strong Türkiye, similar to how they don't want a strong Iran. Read the thoughts of our "friends" accross the middle east and see what they really want.

I'm sorry to say but the AKP government is desperate and has gone to great lengths for all sorts of foreign supprt to stay in power, and for the past few years that has meant an onslaught on Turkish nationalism inside Türkiye whilst propping up PKKs agenda to new heights.

You can't even deny this. PKK supporters openly parade not only öcalans poster but also the terrorists who attacked TUSAŞ.

Türkiye can't be defeated militarily, but the inside is being hollowed out, with politicians like Akın Gürlek and Mustafa Çiftci you don't even need enemies. I've heard of horrible coordination between the palace administration and the MPs and the cracks really are showing. Seeing terrorist supporters at top positions is terrible and I'm not sure how much longer it can last.

 

[Lool]

Iam speechless
If the statements and messages/pictures in the famous model,Tessy Ramos Correiaare's phone are true then Ekrem Imamoglu and his gang are this close to becoming the Jeffrey Epstein of Turkey

The degree of corruption in a party that hasnt tasted the luxury of power for the last 26 years is insane.

I said before that Tanju Ozcan is a national security threat but I take my statements back. That guy appears as an angel compared to Ekrem Imamoglu

Just imagined what they would do when they take power is insane and sends shivers down my spine.

Whats even worse is that of all such filth is being paid by the taxes of the innocent turkish citizens who have nothing to do with such filth


translation:
I had paid sexual encounters with Haluk Levent three times. He used heroin next to me. I used it with him too.
I had paid sexual encounters with Emir Sarıgül, the son of Mustafa Sarıgül, three times. He used cocaine next to me.
The photos on my phone belong to Hasan Vatan. I had encounters with him 3-4 times. He didn't use drugs. He organized parties. For example, to celebrate his 60th birthday, he brought 60 women from abroad and threw a party, and had sexual relations.
When I went to his house, he showed me his videos. In the summer months of 2021, one day we got on a boat in Antalya. There were two boats, and they were side by side. The men would have their fun and sexual relations on one boat, while the women stayed on the other.
There were about 25-30 people. I stayed on the boat for 2 nights and 3 days. On one of those nights, I had sexual relations with Ekrem İmamoğlu. During our sexual encounter, a Russian woman named Olga also joined us in a group. The woman named Olga was more intimate with Ekrem İmamoğlu; I suspect they knew each other from before. The encounter lasted about 1 hour. In that 1 hour, I danced with Olga, and Ekrem İmamoğlu watched us. He looked at us and said, "keep going." Ekrem Imamoglu didn't use narcotic substances. The payment for the women was given in an envelope by a man there who was around 30 years old, slim, about 1.80 tall, with bronze skin.
I'm full of regret over what happened...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2075622162258682348

 

[duveil]

Tayyip is the embodiment of consistency.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2075892030438351095

 

[Tornadoss]

Iam speechless
If the statements and messages/pictures in the famous model,Tessy Ramos Correiaare's phone are true then Ekrem Imamoglu and his gang are this close to becoming the Jeffrey Epstein of Turkey

The degree of corruption in a party that hasnt tasted the luxury of power for the last 26 years is insane.

I said before that Tanju Ozcan is a national security threat but I take my statements back. That guy appears as an angel compared to Ekrem Imamoglu

Just imagined what they would do when they take power is insane and sends shivers down my spine.

Whats even worse is that of all such filth is being paid by the taxes of the innocent turkish citizens who have nothing to do with such filth


translation:
I had paid sexual encounters with Haluk Levent three times. He used heroin next to me. I used it with him too.
I had paid sexual encounters with Emir Sarıgül, the son of Mustafa Sarıgül, three times. He used cocaine next to me.
The photos on my phone belong to Hasan Vatan. I had encounters with him 3-4 times. He didn't use drugs. He organized parties. For example, to celebrate his 60th birthday, he brought 60 women from abroad and threw a party, and had sexual relations.
When I went to his house, he showed me his videos. In the summer months of 2021, one day we got on a boat in Antalya. There were two boats, and they were side by side. The men would have their fun and sexual relations on one boat, while the women stayed on the other.
There were about 25-30 people. I stayed on the boat for 2 nights and 3 days. On one of those nights, I had sexual relations with Ekrem İmamoğlu. During our sexual encounter, a Russian woman named Olga also joined us in a group. The woman named Olga was more intimate with Ekrem İmamoğlu; I suspect they knew each other from before. The encounter lasted about 1 hour. In that 1 hour, I danced with Olga, and Ekrem İmamoğlu watched us. He looked at us and said, "keep going." Ekrem Imamoglu didn't use narcotic substances. The payment for the women was given in an envelope by a man there who was around 30 years old, slim, about 1.80 tall, with bronze skin.
I'm full of regret over what happened...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2075622162258682348

I see feto tactics again.

 

[Bogeyman]

I see feto tactics again.

These "tactics" didn't cross your mind when you were "claiming ownership" of the operation carried out by FETÖ, did they? December 17-25 - shoe boxes, do you remember? That operation was "legitimate," wasn't it?

 

[Anastasius]

Iam speechless
If the statements and messages/pictures in the famous model,Tessy Ramos Correiaare's phone are true then Ekrem Imamoglu and his gang are this close to becoming the Jeffrey Epstein of Turkey

The degree of corruption in a party that hasnt tasted the luxury of power for the last 26 years is insane.

I said before that Tanju Ozcan is a national security threat but I take my statements back. That guy appears as an angel compared to Ekrem Imamoglu

Just imagined what they would do when they take power is insane and sends shivers down my spine.

Whats even worse is that of all such filth is being paid by the taxes of the innocent turkish citizens who have nothing to do with such filth


translation:
I had paid sexual encounters with Haluk Levent three times. He used heroin next to me. I used it with him too.
I had paid sexual encounters with Emir Sarıgül, the son of Mustafa Sarıgül, three times. He used cocaine next to me.
The photos on my phone belong to Hasan Vatan. I had encounters with him 3-4 times. He didn't use drugs. He organized parties. For example, to celebrate his 60th birthday, he brought 60 women from abroad and threw a party, and had sexual relations.
When I went to his house, he showed me his videos. In the summer months of 2021, one day we got on a boat in Antalya. There were two boats, and they were side by side. The men would have their fun and sexual relations on one boat, while the women stayed on the other.
There were about 25-30 people. I stayed on the boat for 2 nights and 3 days. On one of those nights, I had sexual relations with Ekrem İmamoğlu. During our sexual encounter, a Russian woman named Olga also joined us in a group. The woman named Olga was more intimate with Ekrem İmamoğlu; I suspect they knew each other from before. The encounter lasted about 1 hour. In that 1 hour, I danced with Olga, and Ekrem İmamoğlu watched us. He looked at us and said, "keep going." Ekrem Imamoglu didn't use narcotic substances. The payment for the women was given in an envelope by a man there who was around 30 years old, slim, about 1.80 tall, with bronze skin.
I'm full of regret over what happened...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2075622162258682348

I don't think having orgy parties with paid adult prostitutes is quite the same as raping little children in messed up elite rituals on a private island.

Hypocrites and scum? Yes. Jeffrey Epstein tier? Not quite. This is just regular political corruption thus far.

 

[Khagan1923]

Iam speechless
If the statements and messages/pictures in the famous model,Tessy Ramos Correiaare's phone are true then Ekrem Imamoglu and his gang are this close to becoming the Jeffrey Epstein of Turkey

The degree of corruption in a party that hasnt tasted the luxury of power for the last 26 years is insane.

I said before that Tanju Ozcan is a national security threat but I take my statements back. That guy appears as an angel compared to Ekrem Imamoglu

Just imagined what they would do when they take power is insane and sends shivers down my spine.

Whats even worse is that of all such filth is being paid by the taxes of the innocent turkish citizens who have nothing to do with such filth


translation:
I had paid sexual encounters with Haluk Levent three times. He used heroin next to me. I used it with him too.
I had paid sexual encounters with Emir Sarıgül, the son of Mustafa Sarıgül, three times. He used cocaine next to me.
The photos on my phone belong to Hasan Vatan. I had encounters with him 3-4 times. He didn't use drugs. He organized parties. For example, to celebrate his 60th birthday, he brought 60 women from abroad and threw a party, and had sexual relations.
When I went to his house, he showed me his videos. In the summer months of 2021, one day we got on a boat in Antalya. There were two boats, and they were side by side. The men would have their fun and sexual relations on one boat, while the women stayed on the other.
There were about 25-30 people. I stayed on the boat for 2 nights and 3 days. On one of those nights, I had sexual relations with Ekrem İmamoğlu. During our sexual encounter, a Russian woman named Olga also joined us in a group. The woman named Olga was more intimate with Ekrem İmamoğlu; I suspect they knew each other from before. The encounter lasted about 1 hour. In that 1 hour, I danced with Olga, and Ekrem İmamoğlu watched us. He looked at us and said, "keep going." Ekrem Imamoglu didn't use narcotic substances. The payment for the women was given in an envelope by a man there who was around 30 years old, slim, about 1.80 tall, with bronze skin.
I'm full of regret over what happened...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2075622162258682348

I don't like Imamoglu and think he is a snake just like the majority of the akp/chp but this is hilarious. Take the guy in because he threatens Erdogans seat without any actual evidence or wrongdoing.

And now we are slowly touching the bottom of the fucking barrel with the accusations because everything else has been exposed as lies.

So he fucked an escort on a ship? If that is the crime the akp would need to be dissolved and the majority of its members jailed for life in work camps.


This is also is most likely a lie manufactured by the akp once again as they have nothing to actually sentence him with. This chick was also being passed around by akp affiliates and their members lmao.

Also speaks volume about their taste if that is the escorts they are going for lmao.

 

[Khagan1923]

I don't think having orgy parties with paid adult prostitutes is quite the same as raping little children in messed up elite rituals on a private island.

Hypocrites and scum? Yes. Jeffrey Epstein tier? Not quite. This is just regular political corruption thus far.

If my man think this is epstein level than he should rethink is support for Erdogan and his goons. This chick was being passed around in akp circles long before he knew who she was.

There is reason they are using this escort to smear Imamoglu, also even if he fucked her who the fuck cares lmao that is something between him and his wife.

Akp really has lost the ability to think further than 10 cm.

Everybody knows why Imamoglu is in jail. I'm saying this as someone who would never vote for him lmao. Dude was the first threat in a long time to Erdogans chair being taken out under him and they hastily threw him in jail and have been making shit up on the way with most of it being exposed and blowing up in their own faces.

 

[Bogeyman]

I don't like Imamoglu and think he is a snake just like the majority of the akp/chp but this is hilarious. Take the guy in because he threatens Erdogans seat without any actual evidence or wrongdoing.

And now we are slowly touching the bottom of the fucking barrel with the accusations because everything else has been exposed as lies.

So he fucked an escort on a ship? If that is the crime the akp would need to be dissolved and the majority of its members jailed for life in work camps.


This is also is most likely a lie manufactured by the akp once again as they have nothing to actually sentence him with. This chick was also being passed around by akp affiliates and their members lmao.

Also speaks volume about their taste if that is the escorts they are going for lmao.

In the investigations targeting CHP mayors and the operations to buy off delegates within the CHP, the information, documents, and witnesses all come entirely from within the CHP. If there is information, documents, and witnesses, what were the prosecutors supposed to do with those money towers? Ignore them? Therefore, don't blame anyone else for the Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu-Ekrem İmamoğlu feud. This is their mess. Nothing else.

 

[Tornadoss]

These "tactics" didn't cross your mind when you were "claiming ownership" of the operation carried out by FETÖ, did they? December 17-25 - shoe boxes, do you remember? That operation was "legitimate," wasn't it?

you know better these tactics, from Ergenekon, Balyoz, conspired against the army by akp and feto.

 

[Bogeyman]

you know better these tactics, from Ergenekon, Balyoz, conspired against the army by akp and feto.

Dursun Çiçek, who was arrested in the Ergenekon case, stated in 2021 that if a coalition government were formed with the HDP, the HDP should be given ministerial positions.