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No one can compare the present situation regarding the pkk with the past. Never before in history have the pkk and its buffoonish leader been praised to such an extent; never before has he been called the "Great Leader," and never before have posters of the pkk and its buffoonish leader been proudly displayed in the heart of Istanbul.
Never before in history has the PKK fallen so far behind in its ambition to establish a state. Don't show me those two hanging posters. Even the US abandoned the PKK in Syria and Iraq thanks to today's policies. In 2008, you were forced to end Operation Sun against the PKK in Northern Iraq because of the US embargo. In Iran, Erdoğan said, "If you engage with the PKK, we will strike the PKK," and we ended the US operation in Iran. Today, even Mossad is crying because they missed a century's opportunity because of Erdoğan. Instead of getting into ridiculous crises, lift your head and look around.
 

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Never before in history has the PKK fallen so far behind in its ambition to establish a state. Don't show me those two hanging posters. Even the US abandoned the PKK in Syria and Iraq thanks to today's policies. In 2008, you were forced to end Operation Sun against the PKK in Northern Iraq because of the US embargo. In Iran, Erdoğan said, "If you engage with the PKK, we will strike the PKK," and we ended the US operation in Iran. Today, even Mossad is crying because they missed a century's opportunity because of Erdoğan. Instead of getting into ridiculous crises, lift your head and look around.
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Never before in history has the PKK fallen so far behind in its ambition to establish a state. Don't show me those two hanging posters. Even the US abandoned the PKK in Syria and Iraq thanks to today's policies. In 2008, you were forced to end Operation Sun against the PKK in Northern Iraq because of the US embargo. In Iran, Erdoğan said, "If you engage with the PKK, we will strike the PKK," and we ended the US operation in Iran. Today, even Mossad is crying because they missed a century's opportunity because of Erdoğan. Instead of getting into ridiculous crises, lift your head and look around.
Dude Türkiye is literally heading towards becoming a federation with full autonomy given to Kurds. All of this has been inched along for years, at first it was twisted in a nationalist narrative fused with Neo-Ottomanism, now it's just out in the open.

PKK has never been this strong. Their goal of autonomy has defacto been granted and you can freely walk around Türkiye with a poster of öcalan, maybe you'll get attacked but the police will support you. This is what Türkiye has become.

Terrorists have officially been legitimized and huge compromises have been made to them.

You say that Türkiye didn't allow the US to use PKK against Iran and many others rave on about foreign policy, but the interal situation is just f*cked, there's no defending it.

When the FPV drones start causing chaos accross the nation I'll quote this post. This peace process has made them politically stronger than ever, but they'll also recoup their arms like never before, all under the governments supervision.

All I'm going to say is I don't know if it's naivety or treason, but it's sad to see how many government supporters are openly supporting the American adgenda for Türkiye, as if it's fully benevolent.
 

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Dude Türkiye is literally heading towards becoming a federation with full autonomy given to Kurds. All of this has been inched along for years, at first it was twisted in a nationalist narrative fused with Neo-Ottomanism, now it's just out in the open.

PKK has never been this strong. Their goal of autonomy has defacto been granted and you can freely walk around Türkiye with a poster of öcalan, maybe you'll get attacked but the police will support you. This is what Türkiye has become.

Terrorists have officially been legitimized and huge compromises have been made to them.

You say that Türkiye didn't allow the US to use PKK against Iran and many others rave on about foreign policy, but the interal situation is just f*cked, there's no defending it.

When the FPV drones start causing chaos accross the nation I'll quote this post. This peace process has made them politically stronger than ever, but they'll also recoup their arms like never before, all under the governments supervision.

All I'm going to say is I don't know if it's naivety or treason, but it's sad to see how many government supporters are openly supporting the American adgenda for Türkiye, as if it's fully benevolent.
To add to this, a lot of people point towards the defence industry as being evidence that things are going well.

What's ignored here is that billions are pumped into Türkiye to socially engineer it away from being a united, secular nation state and steer it towards a divided, backwards nation that will ultimately disintegrate into a rump state, just as the Sevres treaty intended.

There are high level officials serving in the government right now that are on the payroll, including Yusuf Tekin, Akın Gürek, Mustafa Çiftci and the fake opposition leader Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu. They've been heavily funded by Saudi Arabia for years now.

No one in the region actually wants a strong Türkiye, similar to how they don't want a strong Iran. Read the thoughts of our "friends" accross the middle east and see what they really want.

I'm sorry to say but the AKP government is desperate and has gone to great lengths for all sorts of foreign supprt to stay in power, and for the past few years that has meant an onslaught on Turkish nationalism inside Türkiye whilst propping up PKKs agenda to new heights.

You can't even deny this. PKK supporters openly parade not only öcalans poster but also the terrorists who attacked TUSAŞ.

Türkiye can't be defeated militarily, but the inside is being hollowed out, with politicians like Akın Gürlek and Mustafa Çiftci you don't even need enemies. I've heard of horrible coordination between the palace administration and the MPs and the cracks really are showing. Seeing terrorist supporters at top positions is terrible and I'm not sure how much longer it can last.
 
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