TR Propulsion Systems

[Agha Sher]

What a great thing that this guy is leading TEI to levels that exceed expectations in an unbelievable speed. Kudos and respect!

No magic. Just pure hard work and dedication for their country and nation.

 

[AWP]

What a spectacular achievement by TEI , the TF-10000 was announced while ago and now in production phase . I expect TF-6000 production is done, and soon a test video will be published

Honestly, I wouldn't be supersized if we see a mockup for TF-X engine in 2023

 

[Hasanrize]

What a spectacular achievement by TEI , the TF-10000 was announced while ago and now in production phase . I expect TF-6000 production is done, and soon a test video will be published

Honestly, I wouldn't be supersized if we see a mockup for TF-X engine in 2023

Don't expect that much; TF-10000 is actually TF-6000 with an afterburner behind it. He told himself a couple of weeks before that those engines would take time to produce because each part of the engine should be coded into printers which will take time. Look like they are taking a risk and increasing the speed of production.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Inconel718 nickel superalloy powder and cage produced with this

 

[TheInsider]

Both powder, metal, and laser 3D printers are produced by the same company.

 

[Ripley]

Inconel718 nickel superalloy powder and cage produced with this

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@Cabatli_TR @TheInsider
Hope you forgive my ignorance but what are the fields of application of this material?

 

[TheInsider]

Unlike steel, this alloy keeps its high strength at high temperatures so you can use this for any application that needs high strength at high temperatures, for example, jet engines.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Utku 1000hp powerpack

New Altay with BATU powerpack delivery:2025
Firtina-2 with Utku powerpack delivery: 2025
TTZA engine powerpack delivery: 2023

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1612404287359037440

TEI commissioned Turkey's first mobile turbofan engine test bench

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1614323173024989191

 

[Pilatino]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1614323173024989191

What happened to BlackSeaShield and Zorya JV etc. Empty promises I guess.

 

[Oublious]

What happened to BlackSeaShield and Zorya JV etc. Empty promises I guess.

bayraktar didn' team up with Motorsich but with Ukrspecexport.


Ukroboronprom (UOP; Ukrainian: Укроборонпром, Ukrainian Defence Industry) is an association of multi-product enterprises (conglomerate or concern) in various sectors of the defence industry of Ukraine. Ukroboronprom has ceased most of its activities across Ukraine since the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine and has relocated much of its production abroad.

 

[Pilatino]

bayraktar didn' team up with Motorsich but with Ukrspecexport.


Ukroboronprom (UOP; Ukrainian: Укроборонпром, Ukrainian Defence Industry) is an association of multi-product enterprises (conglomerate or concern) in various sectors of the defence industry of Ukraine. Ukroboronprom has ceased most of its activities across Ukraine since the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine and has relocated much of its production abroad.

Thx for the details but I was dreaming for a serial production line in Turkey and feel sad about it. Where did they relocated do you have any info?

 

[Oublious]

Thx for the details but I was dreaming for a serial production line in Turkey and feel sad about it. Where did they relocated do you have any info?

When it comes to engine Ukrainians don't want to share ther engine, even JV was not possible. As you can see they now understanding the importance of Turkey but i am afraid they are to late. They are located in Istanbul.

 

[moz68k]

Any engine guys know if/think there is a shared architecture between the I4/I6, UTKU and BATU projects? The I4 and I6 have a per cylinder combustion volume of ≈2.1L (8.4L and 12.8, respectively); UTKU ≈2.0L (16.2L); and BATU ≈2.3L (27.3L). Total displacements are listed in parentheses.

Do you think BMC bored and/or stroked a base ≈2.0L cylinder for all its engines. I know a lot of car companies use a shared architecture for most of their newer engines now, which has actually increased reliability. BMW, for instance, uses the modular B series architecture in its and I3 (B38), I4 (B48), and I6 (B58) engines [1].

This approach would also be a good sign for BATU, since I recall hearing that UTKU is doing well in testing.

I can't find any displacement data on the long-stroke Doosan DV27K, but MTU's MT883 Ka-500/501 has 27.4L total displacement and is also a short-stroke engine, so it's broadly comparable to the BATU on paper.

With respect to BATU's transmission, obviously RENK's 5f5r gear transmission is unmatched by neither BMC (5f2r), nor SNT Dynamics (6f3r). However, it does make me wonder whether there really is an advantage to having so many reverse gears on a tank? I mean Allison's DDA X-1100-3B used on the Abrams has 4f2r gears, and is probably the most battle-tested tank outside of Russian sh*tboxes. I mean our LEO 2A4s 5 reverse gears didn't do us any favors when faced with IS & PKK kornets... Perhaps that's why we simplified the number of reverse gears?

EDIT: SNT Dynamics EST15K has 6 forward and 3 reverse gears, thanks Chocopie for the correction

 

[Heartbang]

However, it does make me wonder whether there really is an advantage to having so many reverse gears on a tank?

Having a lotta reverse gears help with reverse speed, which allows the tank to rapidly back away from danger with its stronger front armor facing the enemy, if the need arises.

Most Russian shitboxes only have 1 reverse gear, which gives them the ability of backing up at a blistering 4 km/h. When Russian tanks need to urgently back up, they usually do so by exposing their underarmored back side.
You don't want to flash your bare back towards your enemy, that's how you get penetrated.

As for the Turkish Leo2A4s in Syria, those tanks were pretty barebones in their equipments department, even in their prime. But unlike Russian staff, our lads learn from their mistakes, and we managed to pull through with tactics and other equipment. But of course that's a subject to be discussed in another topic.

 

[Chocopie]

Any engine guys know if/think there is a shared architecture between the I4/I6, UTKU and BATU projects? The I4 and I6 have a per cylinder combustion volume of ≈2.1L (8.4L and 12.8, respectively); UTKU ≈2.0L (16.2L); and BATU ≈2.3L (27.3L). Total displacements are listed in parentheses.

Do you think BMC bored and/or stroked a base ≈2.0L cylinder for all its engines. I know a lot of car companies use a shared architecture for most of their newer engines now, which has actually increased reliability. BMW, for instance, uses the modular B series architecture in its and I3 (B38), I4 (B48), and I6 (B58) engines [1].

This approach would also be a good sign for BATU, since I recall hearing that UTKU is doing well in testing.

I can't find any displacement data on the long-stroke Doosan DV27K, but MTU's MT883 Ka-500/501 has 27.4L total displacement and is also a short-stroke engine, so it's broadly comparable to the BATU on paper.

With respect to BATU's transmission, obviously RENK's 5f5r gear transmission is unmatched by neither BMC (5f2r), nor Doosan (5f3r). However, it does make me wonder whether there really is an advantage to having so many reverse gears on a tank? I mean Allison's DDA X-1100-3B used on the Abrams has 4f2r gears, and is probably the most battle-tested tank outside of Russian sh*tboxes. I mean our LEO 2A4s 5 reverse gears didn't do us any favors when faced with IS & PKK kornets... Perhaps that's why we simplified the number of reverse gears?

Hyundai Doosan Infracore DV27K displacement is 27,2 L.

K2 planned Korean transmission (new reliability test needed) is not from Doosan.
SNT Dynamics EST15K has 6 forward/3 reverse gears.

SNT Dynamics

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www.hisntd.com

 

[moz68k]

I also have another question regarding the Doosan DV27K's dry weight (≈2550 Kg) in comparison to the MTU MT883 Ka-500/501 (≈1800 Kg). First of all, are these numbers true? If so, why is there such a significant difference in weight between the two engines? Do the Germans really have alien tech? What dry weight can we expect from BATU? Sorry for all the questions, I'm really not knowledgable on this subject.

 

[Chocopie]

I also have another question regarding the Doosan DV27K's dry weight (≈2550 Kg) in comparison to the MTU MT883 Ka-500/501 (≈1800 Kg). First of all, are these numbers true? If so, why is there such a significant difference in weight between the two engines? Do the Germans really have alien tech? What dry weight can we expect from BATU? Sorry for all the questions, I'm really not knowledgable on this subject.

Not an expert, but the dry weight of the Korean diesel engine is said to be ~500 kg heavier than the MTU. As a long stroke engine it‘s also bigger in dimensions.

MTU designs and builds diesel engines for armored tracked vehicles since 1918. That‘s over 100 years of experience and one premier example of German engineering, not alien tech, they‘re simply very good at what their doing.

 

[fire starter]

Not an expert, but the dry weight of the Korean diesel engine is said to be ~500 kg heavier than the MTU. As a long stroke engine it‘s also bigger in dimensions.

MTU designs and builds diesel engines for armored tracked vehicles since 1918. That‘s over 100 years of experience and one premier example of German engineering, not alien tech, they‘re simply very good at what their doing.

Not an expert, but the dry weight of the Korean diesel engine is said to be ~500 kg heavier than the MTU. As a long stroke engine it‘s also bigger in dimensions.

MTU designs and builds diesel engines for armored tracked vehicles since 1918. That‘s over 100 years of experience and one premier example of German engineering, not alien tech, they‘re simply very good at what their doing.

What are the real dimensions of this engine.