TR Propulsion Systems

[Oublious]

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What did they hid in the box?

 

[Combat-Master]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1372878223466491907

PD-180ST on a dynamometer test-stand

 

[Blank1]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1372878223466491907

PD-180ST on a dynamometer test-stand
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How much PD180ST is liter then PD170 ?
And what is the HP of the engine compared to PD170 ?

 

[Anmdt]

How much PD180ST is liter then PD170 ?
And what is the HP of the engine compared to PD170 ?

Dual turbo -> Single turbo (saves weight)
170 HP -> 180HP
New engine cast, maybe additive manufactured parts, higher piston pressure etc.

 

[Zafer]

Dual turbo -> Single turbo (saves weight)
170 HP -> 180HP
New engine cast, maybe additive manufactured parts, higher piston pressure etc.

There is a bright future for civilian aviation propulsion. If TEI is wise enough to see the nascent hybrid electric aviation market that has yet to become a thing it can find itself in a propulsion bliss. The coming PD-222 has 200hp continuous rating. This kind of power can support a 5 seat VTOL flying machine. And the engine is only 165 kilogram. The civilian market does not need high altitude support as they are civilian people carriers. An engine with 222hp take off rating, 200hp continuous and a weight reduced to 150kg leaving the turbocharger and some of the reduction gearing out will work wonders. If my dreams come true you guys are getting a 50% discount on your first trip across the city of Istanbul. Just use the discount code "Zafer2021".

 

[Combat-Master]

TUSAŞ Engine Industry (TEI) General Manager and Chairman of the Board Prof. Dr. Mahmut Faruk Akşit will be interviewed by Mete Yarar at 16:00TRT/13:00GMT.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJH8fZIHhCoKHCUfp05qREg

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1373872520798085122

Parts of engines TEI manufactures for foreign engines

 

[Yasar_TR]

Yeni Gemisavar Füzesi’nin motoru TJ300’den başarılı test

TEI tarafından Orta Menzilli Gemisavar (OMGS) Füzesi için milli olarak geliştirilen TEI-TJ300 Turbojet Motoru bir test faaliyetini daha başarıyla gerçekleştirdi

www.savunmasanayist.com

MRAShM engine TJ300 has undergone a set of new tests on it’s way to being used in the medium range missiles for the Turkish navy platforms and navy helicopters.
As well as replacing the ageing Penguin missiles fired from Seahawk helicopter, the new missile is being planned for smaller naval vessels. May be ones like Tuzla Class YTKB and may be even ULAQ!
First prototype test of TJ300 has been performed successfully. The engine can fly at 0.9 Mach at 5000ft and has a diameter of 24 cm To be compatible with the intended missile.
The engine has no starter. It can start operating with air pressure under “Windmilling” conditions. This allows the unit to be used from land, air or naval platforms.

 

[azaher77]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1374015663967236102

Prof. Dr. Mahmut Aksit: If our government gives us the task of converting Gökbey's engine to Atak engine, we will produce a derivative engine.
(We understand that the engine has not been officially ordered for Atak yet

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Utku 1000hp turbodiesel engine

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Batu 1500hp turbodiesel engine (2024)

 

[Cabatli_TR]

TS1400 engine test infrastructure will allow Turkey to develop turboshafts up to 3000hp

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Turbojet motor family 3-5kN

Thanks to Ahmet Melik Türkeş

 

[Test7]

Utku 1000hp turbodiesel engine

 

[Yasar_TR]

Utku 1000hp turbodiesel engine

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If this engine is really capable of developing 1000HP power, then why not turn this in to an electrodiesel and use it in a hybrid configuration with a 7-800 HP Lithium/Ion battery pack, to drive a 75 ton tank? No transmission and enormous torque with silent running when needed as well!

 

[Stuka]

BMC Power UTKU 1000HP Power Pack is planned for 2023

I had posted about the Timeline on the Firtina SPH. I Guess it was accurate and that's why they will go with a interim solution until 2023.

The Firtina 2 Self Propelled Howitzer and the question about its Propulsion.

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Firtina 2 Upgrades:

>Aselsan’s SARP RCWS on top of the howitzer turret
>New generation fire control system
>Fully automatic ammunition loading system.
>The new loading system also allows a higher rate of fire, intense fire rate is increased of one round per minute, up to 7-8 rpm
>Multiple Round Impact missions, hitting the same target with three rounds at the same moment.
>The new inertial navigation system allows the Firtina 2 to open fire within 30 seconds from reaching its position
>A key element in terms of safety is the adoption of an all-electric turret, avoiding the dangerous hydraulic piping
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The Question which was Always a Concern especially when it comes to Export is the Power pack. A Timeline:

Planned Power pack:

MT 881 Ka-500​

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Specifications:

735 kW (1000 PS)

2700/min

1108 × 972 × 742 mm

1400 kg

144/140 mm

8 Zyl./2,28 l

18,2 l

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In 2018

Many Media Outlets claimed that Turkey was Opting for an Ukrainian Engine.

Fırtına obüsüne ihracat yolu

FIRTINA obüsü ihracatında yıllardır Almanya iznine takılan Türkiye, bu engeli Ukrayna’yla aşmaya hazırlanıyor.

www.hurriyet.com.tr

Looking for an alternative, Makina Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu (MKEK) officials found the solution in Ukraine. Having negotiated with Ukrainian officials and engine manufacturer UkrOboronProm, MKEK ordered 20 engines from this country when it received the commitment "there will be no export restrictions".

We haven't heard from This solution since but the Engine in Question is the Following:

5TDFMA​

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In 2019 (1 Year Later) The News broke at IDEF 19

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1123261730010861568

Caterpillar Defense UK & Turkish Defense Ministry signed a Memorandum of Understanding for the development of the power packs for Thunder Howitzers.

The Engine which the Power pack will be based of.

CAT C18​

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CAT C18

597 kW (800 PS)

2000/min

2736 lb-ft @ 1300 rpm

1716 kg

In-Line 6

6 Zyl./3,01 l

18,1 l

The Information's Suggest that the Engine in Question has 6cylinders and a similar Displacement as the MTU, with 18,1 l.
The Engine is a quite a bit heavier than the MTU V8, about 316kg. And produces less Power!

The Final Product which will be integrated in The Firtina Howitzer will probably be an Upgraded Version.

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Current Production Batch distribution of 140 Ordered.
- 3 Howitzers Per Month

According to Yusuf Akbaba the First 10+ Firtina 2 will have the MTU Engine and Renk Transmission and the Following ones will have different Power packs.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1352884413542100992

23.01.2021
> 3 Firtina with MTU Engines Delivered

03.2021 - 06.2021
> 3 - 18 Firtina with remaining MTU Engines to be Delivered.

07.2021 -
> Firtina deliveries with CAT Engines to start.

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(Continuation until BMC Power UTKU Power pack with 1000HP is ready. First Ignition 11.2020, 2.5 years of Tests, approx. readiness 06.2023. )
The Testing phase after Ignition is an Estimate which I based on the 600HP AZRA Power pack. AZRA Ignition 10.2018 Vehicle Tests are almost Finished according to
Osman Dur which means 10.2018 - mid 2021 equals 2.5 Years of Testing
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07.2021 - 06.2023
> 72 Firtina 2 with CAT Engines
> (90 Firtina Howitzer Total)

06.2023 - 11.2024
> Remaining 50 Firtina with National Power pack UTKU




Feel Free to add your two cents.

 

[neosinan]

TEI is currently supplying parts to 45 different engine program around the world,

TEI is producing between 30-40% of GEnx engine.

TEI is producing all of power turbine Module of LHTEC CTS800 engine for all CTS800 engine not only for ATAK T129.

 

[Bogeyman]

TEI is currently supplying parts to 45 different engine program around the world,

TEI is producing between 30-40% of GEnx engine.

TEI is producing all of power turbine Module of LHTEC CTS800 engine for all CTS800 engine not only for ATAK T129.

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TEI makes parts for the engine of the B-2 bomber.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

TEI parts are in almost half of the flying aircraft today!

 

[Combat-Master]

TEI-PD170 engine compared to it's competition - Class Leading.

 

[Tornadoss]

TEI-PD170 engine compared to it's competition - Class Leading.
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Is there any info about the power to weight ratio?