This is very good question!Do we have the funds for two baskets?
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This is very good question!Do we have the funds for two baskets?
It is not up to us to fund the development of the RR engine. TAEC will fund it and make the engine and TAI will buy it. They will make their money by selling it to TAI.Do we have the funds for two baskets?
If this happens, can we sell the engine to Argentina and Russia? Would the UK have a case of not allowing it?No one will give you IP rights of a 5th generation turbofan engine. Let us be realistic. You can’t really expect RR to relinquish a technology that took them decades to perfect, even if we are paying mega bucks for it.
According to the latest statements released by Kale, the best offer will be along the lines of ; the IP rights of the MMU engine will be owned by RR/Kale partnership company TAEC, and it will stay in Turkey. Third party sales of the engine will not be affected. And if the engine needs to be further developed, it will be done by TAEC. In all cases RR will benefit from sales of these engines and it’s derivatives.
As a stop gap engine option and as plan B for the MMU engine supply, we must have an alternative choice of engine manufacturing route in addition to the work being carried out by TEI. At the moment that appears to be TAEC of RR/Kale. This partnership should logically create a second TEI in time for Turkish aerospace industry.
Going through this route will broaden our horizons on the manufacturing techniques of a 5th generation turbofan engine. There will be a lot of cross pollination of technical know how between our two engine manufacturers, as well as the productive adversary occurring between TAEC and TEI.
I hope the RR/Kale option is put on the table soon and finalised. We shouldn’t put all our eggs in TEI’s basket!
A few things I found interesting from this:
The TF10000 is actually the TF6000...A few things I found interesting from this:
- TF6000 prototype production has already begun
- Cost of prototypes is about 3 times higher than for serial production
- The plastic model shown in the fair has a few changes/omissions compared to the real design so as not to reveal design secrets
- If there is a need, the TF10000 can be adapted for use on KE or dual engine Hurjet
- After TF10000, their next engine will be TF35000
- Hopes to see Gokbey fly with TS1400 engine by mid next year
As a partner they would have a say and the right to protest such a sale. Kale officials stressed that the rights of the engine will be staying in Turkey.If this happens, can we sell the engine to Argentina and Russia? Would the UK have a case of not allowing it?
Today, 90,000 TL is paid for paid military service. Defense industry exports exceeded 4 billion dollars.Need another resource?Do we have the funds for two baskets?
You mean Rolls-Royce. Since Kale Arge didn't make any engine to be working longer than 30 hours, Rolls-Royce is the company that had to make that engine. Experience that Kale Arge is nowhere near TEI that made at least several engines used in drones.If we want to make the engine ready until 2028-30, TAEC is the only solution for now.
RR won't help us they are only trying to waste our time with empty promises. I'm sure about my claim especially after their cooperation with Japan. Do you really think that they welcome a new rival to the game? We're so naive. That's why TEI is our only hope and I'm percent sure that they'll manage to do it and get their place in the champions league at the end.
Iirc, prof. Ismail demir clearly stated government doesn't have enough resources to fund two separate engine development for TFX.Today, 90,000 TL is paid for paid military service. Defense industry exports exceeded 4 billion dollars.Need another resource?
Iirc, prof. Ismail demir clearly stated government doesn't have enough resources to fund two separate engine development for TFX.
It was said in the context of merging TR motor, TEI, KALE-RRs effort and combined them in single program.