Well, you're interpreting the reality your way which I understand but I kindly disagree with your point of view here.
We can agree to disagree, its no biggie.
Acquiring Russian military hardware at this point is akin to declaring war on the (white) West. The Europeans will perceive this kind of transaction as a betrayal of the highest order and they most definitely will act accordingly.
You are telling me that money that goes to the tsar + boyars suddenly doesn't matter in the end if its non-military in original intent?
Interesting. (you know how finance flows + diversions work in the end?)
The west should surely apply that principle on Iran, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela (in just recent history) as validation of that concept then?
Why the larger economic sanction on them when its just a "military export/import" angle of it?
Or is it indeed a case of all money is the same green colour in the end (no matter what you are buying) given authoritarian regime ease to turn it into whatever threat capacity?
The West knows this btw (it has illustrated it knows this several times in severe ways...in fact several times with just China alone).
It is why you will get to see what happens for yourself.
Generally speaking, India has neither the means nor the sheer power to withstand Western pressure. It's a country that is pretty much isolated in its proximate neighborhood (just like Turkey) and is heavily dependent on global strategic partnerships.
Yeah they kept telling us that after each nuclear test we did..... ouch we succumbed!
Then NASA comes crawling to us years later for c-c-c-c-can we cooperate a bit on rockets and satellites a bit? (On the very technology we delivered for those nukes in the first place)......saying Pretty please!....
You seem to assume this is our first rodeo with the White house cowboys and DC swamp jerks (and all manner of their little poodles in Europe) and any of its "pressure" hypocrisy (that it gets away with lot more with smaller, weaker and esp non-nuclear countries).
Let me tell you the story of one especially nasty genuinely racist US president w.r.t India....since it concerns the lowest point of US - India relations to understand the overall reference the elephant remembers regarding the bald eagle.
This racist literally ignored a telegram from his own consulate in Dhaka (regarding the atrocities and genocide mounting up there)....because he had made up his mind he wanted to maintain a good relationship with the fascist thugs perpetrating it.
He (apparently) couldn't upset the switcheroo he was doing on top of that....throwing Taiwan under the bus at the time. Classy guy I know right?
This racist instead send a full CBG to the bay of bengal to threaten us.....when we were hosting refugees in the millions (with horrific stories to share of what they saw happening that they fled from).
Blood we spilled with our Bong brothers to achieve their liberation....from an ongoing genocide US was now complicit in....because of its degenerate president at the time especially.
This same place that you now give a one line "should be a military powerhouse and its the "brightest future in all of South Asia"....all without a basic understanding of the core numbers....forget the core context.
That president in his case got some form of karma soon after, having to resign his presidency or face impeachment (on a different domestic matter)....his role on the far more disturbing stuff of scale like Bangladesh....underlooked into (again hypocritically and ignorantly).
The point was we ignored his BS, gave him a good middle finger and dealt with his precious little ally alongside the Bangladeshis....and the Bangladeshis have their freedom now beause of it.
A testament to not giving a shit about extreme hypocrisy and degeneracy when it shows up from the West (or anyone else) and simply doing what is right.
Like I said, not our first rodeo (and you assume to think it is and the west doesnt know it itself deep down in the places that matter).
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Look I know you and lot of Turks are upset about the US:
a) being in collective security arrangement with you
b) hosting warheads at incirlik
c) yet supports PKK/YPG in whatever way on your south due to the Syria situation
While we (or at least I) wish you the best on dealing with that reality....That is simply not the contours of the reality and pressure they can employ with India.
With the rough equivalents....they tried and they failed and they learned....with a nuclear test swan song to boot.
End of.
They start any of this crap (hypothetically for argument sake)..... we can go all the way back to them employing the services of a Mr. Halder of ostplan fame....even giving him a medal. ...brushing off all the blood he had on his hands.
Even the holocaust doesn't matter enough in the end you see to the lust the DC Swamp has for certain things.
There is TONS more where this comes from.....these are just examples in a larger larger web of it.
You seem to think none of this extreme hypocrisy backlog matters or can be used against the US if they start any sermon on the matter.
When it already has been....multiple times....in the mundane negotiation rooms.
You just need to be big enough and firm enough and know how to handle their talking heads they trot out. Go right to the gut punch where it lasts....they do remember those you see....and slither away and send someone better that knows what they are on about.
Its already been done, you just dont know much about it. That's not on me, thats on you.
The threat of cooperation with China on the other hand is totally unrealistic and simply bluffing. One, China will never ditch Pakistan for you. Islamabad is a safe bet for Beijing. Two, it's a country that's physically occupying Indian territory just like Pakistan, according to the official Indian stance. Three, you have a vast and influential diaspora in Western democracies which will prevent you from forming a deep relationship with China on a strategic level.
I don't understand what you mean here? Who brought up anything regarding a "threat of cooperation with China"?
Yes we will cooperate with China, the Republic of China (Taiwan) that is...... on several things going forward.
The other "China".....we are going through a bad relation phase (that might be quite a while)....so I dunno what you are going on about here.
India has not made any such threat to cooperate with PRC lol....much less any "strategic level".
That is one of the most ridiculous things I have heard all day....and its been quite a lot of it so far let me tell you.
You're either misjudging the situation or you're not fully aware of how extremely dependent the Europeans are on Russian energy imports.
If Europe didnt handle Russia for 30 years regarding this well....that again is on them, not us.
The difference between France and Germany's energy policy should be enough to show a deep cleave in approach. One had much more common sense....the other finds itself reliant on Russia by its own doing.
Not even building a basic LNG port to hedge knowing it would be using much more gas soon as it turned of the BAD BAD BAD nuclear plants (that France absolutely loves having in its case).
The money all goes to the tsar and boyars in the end....to use what they want on the military threat and assets.
Priority and scale.....the West has bankrolled whats going on in Ukraine far far far more magnitudes than we have.
Undoing that damage is for them to demonstrate first (for the next 20 - 30 years) before starting the hypocrite lip with anyone else (much less India).
If they want to flex on anyone past themselves and prove any principle on it, they can also do so in the priority ladder with PRC....given they are no. 2 (so far) on bankrolling to Russia.
