I don't know what is going through your brain. Can you explain when and where such a thing happening.
You keep talking about how it doesn't matter how Turkey conducts itself in foreign policy, it can fight its way out of any quagmire. My point was that any time Turkey or any nation really, tried this, it resulted in massive loss of life to rectify a problem that shouldn't have existed to begin with.
Not really. It depends on why is the country being destroyed! Invasion, civil war, independence from the mainland. The reason trully matters for it to be called a national endeavour.
But just so that you know, the west particularly France and USA were really butter up to this date for not colonising Turkey. Dont forget that they already had a massive plan to divide Turkey into 4 different states each with its purpose. If sacrifice were to prevent such scenarios then Yes it is a noble endeavour
Agreed
With all due respect, when did Trump ditch the PKK? Never! Trump retreated from the Turkish border because Erdo said that he is entering Syria whether he likes it or not and already gave a warning to all so-called "allied" US-troops before the operation. Trump saved his soldiers and that is it. The PKK were only pissed at Trump because he destroyed the 50 years of hardwork by the PKK to build the tunnels, and roads into Turkey. Pre the turkish operation, the PKK used to enter the long turkish border freely for the last 50 years to the point that they even used to bomb God damn Istanbul!
They want independence and it is not possible to give them so! They will resort to hard force then Turkey must nip them out one by one
1) You really overestimate the extent to which the West cares about a failed endeavor from 100 years ago. It was important to Greeks and Armenians, not to the British and the French, who cared so little that they started pulling out as soon as Turkish nationalists scored a few victories. Hell, Istanbul was retaken pretty much without a fight because the British didn't really care about it all that much.
This goes double for the US, which had zero personal interest in what happened in Turkey and didn't care if it was ruled by Greeks, Turks or fish-people from Atlantis. In terms of oil and gas, the Entente forces already got everything they wanted - Turkey had virtually zero oil or valuable natural resources, all of that was in the lower Middle-East.
2) Trump agreed earlier to US withdrawal and it was part of his "leaving Syria" plan. Erdogan wouldn't have done s**t if the US refused to budge, he was merely reminding Trump of the agreement, which was getting blocked at every chance by traitorous elements within the administration. The mainstream media here went into a goddamn frenzy over "Trump abandoning the Kurds".
1. Syrian regime certainly got weakened but any notion that Assad will go away anytime soon is wishful thinking. There isn't public support for a war against Assad and never will be so there's no other logical choice than to shake hands with him.
2. Iraq was an independent nation before Americans got involved and now they are closer to Iran than ever.
3. Doesn't matter. We got what we wanted in Karabakh. If the war resumed today, it would be even more one-sided. Woe to the vanquished.
4. and 5. are minor issues, not even close to US supporting PKK, YPG and others against Turkey.
USA is a much bigger existential threat. Because a strong and united Turkey is seen as an obstacle against greater Israel.
They want to break up Turkey into smaller more managable pieces.
After Trump, who was the most pro-Israel president in history, Biden's cabinet is entirely made up of jews.
We can see what's happening. We're not stupid.
1) Whether Assad goes or not, there is no denying that he is overall a hostile element to Turkey in cahoots with Russia and Iran.
2) Iraqi people absolutely f***ing hate Iran. Iranian media mocks them at every turn and their influence is tolerated at best. Turkey should actually invest more in Iran, you could put a massive headache right on Iran's doorstep.
3) You got 60 peacekeepers and we got 80% of our territory liberated. Russians got 2000 men inside Azerbaijan and are openly assisting Armenians to rebuild and likely try again in the future. It is far from over and anyone saying that has zero clue about what's going on in the region.
4 and 5 are absolutely not minor issues. The US has specific lobbies interested in screwing over Turkey. Russia as an entire country is interested in screwing over Turkey as much as possible are openly killing your soldiers. Also, I have never commented on this before because I didn't want to start an argument but are you REALLY sure that PKK having NATO weapons means open NATO support? You do realize that there are NATO weapons all over the place in Syria and Iraq from all the various factions fighting? PKK even get their hands on Turkish equipment sometimes and I doubt TAF is freely giving it to them.
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