SADAT paramilitary mercenaries prepare to attack India's Kashmir

[adenl]

So,that is your answer to my question?

Yes, the intent of OP is obvious by now. He is not here to defend a position but just to post propaganda not worthy of debunking or criticizing.

 

[adenl]

Every country in world must realise there is groups and media working against them in various other places....trying to find and build narratives among other people that are not so informed etc.

People on this forum can see through the propaganda and BS quite easily, telling from the reactions. Imo, this place is ill-suited to spread such propaganda. And that is why I conclude that OP is obviously trolling and this should be a punishable act on this forum.

 

[Nilgiri]

People on this forum can see through the propaganda and BS quite easily, telling from the reactions. Imo, this place is ill-suited to spread such propaganda.

If people can easily see through propaganda, then that runs counter to the need to delete/censor going by some assumed intent of the poster right? Both sides of this do not add up (i.e people have to be easily fooled by propaganda for there to be argument to delete/censor it...going by the logic)

Have we looked at chinese section of forum? I or you may not like something news-wise appearing (and most can tell what of it is propaganda), but a poster has every right to post what appears in a media as long as it follows forum rules.

Judgement and analysis of propaganda and fake news (again staying within forum rules) is the appropriate counter.

 

[adenl]

If people can easily see through propaganda, then that runs counter to the need to delete/censor going by some assumed intent of the poster right? Both sides of this do not add up (i.e people have to be easily fooled by propaganda for there to be argument to delete/censor it...going by the logic)

For the sake of keeping the level of this forum up, it should. It also saps away energy of forum members and bandwidth.

Have we looked at chinese section of forum? I or you may not like something news-wise appearing (and most can tell what of it is propaganda), but a poster has every right to post what appears in a media as long as it follows forum rules.

Imo the forum-rules should be changed to counter this. I already opened a poll about it and it got shut down. But then again I ain't no mod/admin so cannot make such a decision.

Judgement and analysis of propaganda and fake news (again staying within forum rules) is the appropriate counter.

I don't mind the argument or two between two members with genuine intentions (like you and @Kaptaan or who ever else it may be) but there is a cut-off between that and propaganda and/or blatant falsehood that can be debunked easily by a quick google search or just by general knowledge of a subject.

To come back to what I stated above about sapping away energy of members, look at what it did between us .

 

[xizhimen]

Have we looked at chinese section of forum? I or you may not like something news-wise appearing (and most can tell what of it is propaganda), but a poster has every right to post what appears in a media as long as it follows forum rules.

Imformation you never see from the western media doesn't mean they must be propaganda.

 

[Deliorman]

What a brain fart...

 

[Raptor]

Even if it's true how would they manage their supplies from that far.
Even in the 90s so called taliban jihadists came in kashmir but returned dead

 

[Nilgiri]

Even if it's true how would they manage their supplies from that far.
Even in the 90s so called taliban jihadists came in kashmir but returned dead

A lot of Indians (especially online variety) see whole islamic world through the prism of Pakistan animus. So they do not do the basic occam's razor on what is being asserted by a fluff piece....kashmir + terrorism etc is like flame to moth for their interest and conjectures....and any conspiracies/prejudices that take their fancy to begin with....and people that have axe to grind with another country know this, if they want to stir some common cause superficially with Indians (i.e can the dry tinder be lit somehow, they try here and there).

I went to the original article, it seems the Fai guy is indeed released from US custody for a bunch of years now....and he is present (pictured) at some talks/meeting thing with some guy that once worked in Erdogan govt...and bunch of other people.

Then this is taken to some extreme conclusion as the OP headline etc with bunch of hypotheticals/blab passed as inevitable and fact...which is very slippery slope that can be done on India too when we hold consultation and talks (off the record with ex-officials/think tanks etc) with countries A , B , C that are unfriendly to countries D, E , F etc on some sensitive issues regarding them.

What matters is the highest level stuff on the record, rest will have to monitored by intelligence agencies and other such things like that if there is any merit. But this is all being aired out overnight on some media article, yeah I call BS...the intent is very clear....and the bias of source confirms it.

We have to realise that lot of countries will have meetings with whomever is promoting pakistan's agenda w.r.t Kashmir and not run to conclusion that something nefarious will be done by that country's govt just because of that.

If we can develop a stronger relationship with USA that once sent a carrier group to threaten us during the liberation process of Bangladesh (on account of Pakistan's friendship with US at that time)....we should learn from that and not colour relations with other countries unduly and excessively based on far smaller and speculative things.

That was era before proliferation of internet media fake news etc.....so now reasonable Indians must realise and account for what has changed in the thoroughfare of information stream quality and diversity that is available far easier than before.

I cannot vouch or care much for unreasonable indians.....just like unreasonable people of any nationality.

 

[PFC.Winters]

Ankara targets Kashmir with clear intentions against India

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The Turkish paramilitary organization SADAT collaborated with a convicted criminal in the USA against India, preparing the ground for developments in the well-known region of Kashmir, which the Turks already consider the next "Nagorno".

Ankara has reportedly taken the Delhi plot against Kashmir seriously, in a bid to present itself as a "leading power" in Central Asia.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's secret paramilitary group SADAT, led by Adnan Tanrıverdi, has hired Kashmir-born Syed Ghulam Nabi Fai, who is serving a US federal prison sentence for operating to recruit mercenaries against India, the Nordic Monitor reports.
Fai is a member of the American Council of Kashmir (KAC), a showcase organization funded by the Pakistani Secret Service (ISI).


This organization now cooperates with the Turkish SADAT and the NGO Islamic World.
Fai frequently attended SADAT events and even met in person with Tanrıverdi, a former Turkish military official who continues to advise the Turkish president.
The head of the Turkish paramilitary organization was one of the keynote speakers at the event and met with Faye to discuss joint programs and coordinate actions specifically against Indian Kashmir.
The mercenary paramilitary organization SADAT operates as a training and logistical support center for jihadists in Turkey, Syria, Libya and other countries.
The leader of Tanrıverdi aims to transform Turkey's secular system into an Islamic regime based in Sharia, while dreaming of creating an Islamic army with thousands of members from Muslim countries.
In December 2019, after a meeting of the International Islamic Union organized by SADAT, Tanrıverdi said that his organization was working to pave the way for the arrival of the Mahdi (prophet, savior and redeemer of Islam).
He exerts a significant influence on the Erdogan government and helps formulate military security policies.
The former Turkish Army Brigadier General was also the mastermind of the mass purge of pro-Western officers in the Turkish army.
Nearly 80 percent of generals and admirals and almost all Turkish army officers were fired and / or imprisoned and replaced by Islamists and neo-nationalists.
What is certain is that Erdogan's Islamic paramilitary "machine" has begun to prepare the ground for operations in India in connection with the disputed Kashmir regime.
The FBI claims that the Kashmir American Council is heavily funded by Pakistan's ISI spy agency.
"Its operatives in Pakistan are reportedly channeling millions through Kashmir to influence elected US officials while funding high-level conferences, lavishly scattering money to promote the Kashmir case to US decision-makers in Washington." .

Turkey is now moving to the level of Germany of 1940, escaping the narrow confines of the Eastern Mediterranean in an attempt to implement the plan of reviving a powerful new Ottoman Empire.
But the outcome of these plans will be exactly the same as that of Berlin in 1945, and this is entirely certain, as many experts have pointed out.

GALLERY​

https://www.pentapostagma.gr/kosmos...ary-mercenaries-prepare-attack-indias-kashmir

To be honest in the first photo,they are not mercs they are presidental security squads.Tasked to protect the our president in the various areas.

 

[Barry]

Does SADAT exist or is it another false construct like European Grey Wolves?

 

[PFC.Winters]

Does SADAT exist or is it another false construct like European Grey Wolves?

yeah SADAT actually exist.The company usually doin' some security work across the overseas and in the Turkey.

 

[Kartal1]

Does SADAT exist or is it another false construct like European Grey Wolves?

The Grey Wolves are pretty real. If we don't hear about them it doesn't mean they are not there. They are just passive at that stage because the State don't need them right now in the role everybody expects them to play. When it comes to SADAT it is real. Their main task is about training of para-military organizations. The concept of SADAT is pretty different from what is the mainstream narration (mercenary force providing security with their manpower). While I am not closely following their work I know they had training initiatives in Syria and Afghanistan which didn't gave any fruit. They have pretty large portfolio in terms of training programs but I have serious doubts about their real capabilities.

Turkey took the training programs of its proxies directly under State supervision giving that task mainly to the Special Forces Command's personnel specialized in those tasks. Training programs are being organized for ally forces with variety of levels of specializations and specialization trees depending on the circumstances and the needs of the allied force. If the circumstances allow the inter-service cooperation between sides is bigger and training programs reach another level like we see in Libya.

 

[Barry]

Nice one lads

 

[Anmdt]

This thread is still going on? Nice