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MSB ARGE (Ministry of National Defence R&D center) of Turkey has developed a 6000 km range ICBM! And if that was not a breakthrough enough, while they were at it, they also have developed a 42000 lb thrust turbofan engine as a sideshow?
I’ll paraphrase from a twitter user here; Bro who’s working at MSB ARGE, aliens?

So the this engine is a separate project than TF35000?
 

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MSB ARGE (Ministry of National Defence R&D center) of Turkey has developed a 6000 km range ICBM! And if that was not a breakthrough enough, while they were at it, they also have developed a 42000 lb thrust turbofan engine as a sideshow?
I’ll paraphrase from a twitter user here; Bro who’s working at MSB ARGE, aliens?
If they have already started development of a new engine with 42,000 lb thrust, then it stands to reason that they are confident that there will be no problems with the TF35000 engine.
 

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In a TV interview today Mesut Hakkı Caşın said that Mr Mahmut Akşit said that there is a 50k lbf engine in the works, if you want to believe that.
What are we going to do with 50k lbf engine?
MSB arge engine is similar to the thrust levels of the F135(F35) only usage would be for a single engine fighter jet which was discussed by some analyst kaan being the high end and a single engine stealth being the more economical choice.
 

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MSB ARGE (Ministry of National Defence R&D center) of Turkey has developed a 6000 km range ICBM! And if that was not a breakthrough enough, while they were at it, they also have developed a 42000 lb thrust turbofan engine as a sideshow?
I’ll paraphrase from a twitter user here; Bro who’s working at MSB ARGE, aliens?
Their stuff feels like a science fair stand, some mock up of a thing that might exist on a computer somewhere.
 
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What are we going to do with 50k lbf engine?
MSB arge engine is similar to the thrust levels of the F135(F35) only usage would be for a single engine fighter jet which was discussed by some analyst kaan being the high end and a single engine stealth being the more economical choice.
What if the KAAN goes unmanned later as 6/7th gen?
 

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Their stuff feels like a science fair stand, some mock up of a thing that might exist on a computer somewhere.
Maybe but if the intention is propaganda they would just build bigger bombs and missiles. Some of the stuff is actually useful and an IRBM would not be an economical choice but would bolster our deterrence if it is precise but not as a mono block missile with one warhead.
 

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Looks like MSB Arge have been indoctrinated by grand master Eray Güçlüer.
 
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What are we going to do with 50k lbf engine?
MSB arge engine is similar to the thrust levels of the F135(F35) only usage would be for a single engine fighter jet which was discussed by some analyst kaan being the high end and a single engine stealth being the more economical choice.
That power level speaks better to derivative engines towards ship engines, power generation engines and high bypass turbofan engines. That core engine can be used to make such engines. So there can be multiple uses for such an engine where a smaller engine falls short.
 
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You wouldnt expect that from a Turkish state institution,we are not Iran.
Good point. I agree with you 100%. Turkish state institutions carry a weight hence you take heed when they declare stuff.
I’m roaming all over the net and social media to figure out whether these are mockups or prototypes or ongoing projects or projects just commenced.

All I got is that they’re “unveiled”. Unveiling what exactly?
 

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That power level speaks better to derivative engines towards ship engines, power generation engines and high bypas turbofan engines. That core engine can be used to make such engines. So there can be multiple uses for such an engine where a smaller engine falls short.
True but this engine has an afterburner which would classify it as a fighter engine. A gas turbine for naval ships are usually deprived from civilian engines because of the time of usage
 
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