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You see, that’s where my confusion begins.
When a radar is active, it sends electromagnetic waves and anti-radiation missiles hunt on those waves, right. So, a harm missile should track it and kill the radar.
Since it actively emits EM waves and anti radiation missile locks on it, it leaves a very, very narrow window to hit the oncoming missile, is that it?
Well, we need to keep in mind that ARMs are not cruise missiles. they dont have the advantage of terrain masking. instead they rely on their low RCS and speed to narrow down the window of engagement.
And for that reason when it comes to Akbaba, it has critical speed advantage compared to HARM because of its unique Ramjet propulsion technology. As the terminal speed for HARM is considerably low as its motor burn out long before terminal phase and it basically glides its way toward target.

So, now lets say, even with an ARM with terminal speed of Mach 2.5/3 the window of engagement for a modern air defense system equipped with latest gen AESA sensor will be around 30/40 second.

WHY? because even with its very low RCS, against a big GaN based AESA like Ground Fire or Kronos Grand or EL/M 2084 it will be detected and tracked around 30/35 km.

Which is a pretty fat window of engagement for a system that can respond just in 5/6 second and simultaneously engage 16/24 targets.
 
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Hey guys, excuse my ignorance. Can any of you let me know where does Aselsan fabricate its imagine sensors and detectors?
 
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Looks like Turkey has already begun to counter the F-35s before they even get a chance to arrive in Greece. Do we know how far away EIRS can detect and track targets?

Is Karagoz some type of balloon?
 

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Looks like Turkey has already begun to counter the F-35s before they even get a chance to arrive in Greece. Do we know how far away EIRS can detect and track targets?

Is Karagoz some type of balloon?
 

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How effective can EIRS be in tracking stealth targets?
It works on S band,detection is more than x band radars,if you have an idea of region stealth aircrafts with other methods like passive radars,electronic intelligence. vice versa,you can maximise your radar wave power on limited rgion search the detection range get longer,or if you can use on multistatik format again same thing happens.So you can detect on many ways but you can not target like x band radars did.On future with the evaluation of aesa radar as an seeker of missiles,somethings get easier also.
 

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It works on S band,detection is more than x band radars,if you have an idea of region stealth aircrafts with other methods like passive radars,electronic intelligence. vice versa,you can maximise your radar wave power on limited rgion search the detection range get longer,or if you can use on multistatik format again same thing happens.So you can detect on many ways but you can not target like x band radars did.On future with the evaluation of aesa radar as an seeker of missiles,somethings get easier also.
I wonder is it actually ever tested?..
@TheInsider ?
 

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Looks like Turkey has already begun to counter the F-35s before they even get a chance to arrive in Greece. Do we know how far away EIRS can detect and track targets?
Yes, we know. ERIS can detect and track targets up to 470km. But it will probably increase with the future updates like GM400.
 

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I have a question. Some gimbals have telescopic aperture but some haven't.(there are spectro,aselflir f500c. There aren't wescam,CATS etc.) I wonder, what is advantage or disadvantage side to telescopic aperture?
 

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