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There was a concept video for I can't remember If it was the deli or not they had 4 kamikaza drones strapped to Kirpi mrap and It was showing a pantsir being destroyed, what was that project?
TR Small Aerial Drones & Loitering Ammunitions
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Drones & loitering munitions & satellites are, IMO, the 5th major breakthrough in warfare technologies in history. The first was the bow and arrow. The second was explosives. The third was cannons. The fourth was airplanes. The fifth will be Drones & loitering munitions & satellites.
Each breakthrough advanced the measure of the "stabbing" action occupied in 4-dimensional space-time and the intensity of the action. For the simple knife, the range of attack-in-space was arm's length and there was only one direction the attack could come from. The intensity of the action was almost non-existent. Very few "stabbings" per unit of time were possible with arm strength.
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1) The the range of attack-in-space increased little bit thanks to the spear and sword, but other characteristics did not change. When the bow and arrow were invented, the range of attack-in-space was now tens of meters. This was the first breakthrough.
2) When explosives were added, the number of "stabbing" per unit of time, in other words, the intensity of the action, became almost uncountable. For example, with the explosion of a barrel of gunpowder, the "stabbing" action could be performed hundreds of thousands of times instantly.
3) When cannons came, the range of attack-in-space increased greatly. Now it was possible to "stab" the enemy from kilometers away.
4) With airplanes, both the range of attack-in-space increased to hundreds of kilometers and the directions from which the attack could come became diverse. Unlike cannons, the "stabbing" move of an airplane could be possible from any direction. The only problem for airplanes was that the range of attack-in-time was small. The airplane could not prolong the duration of the threat because it could not stay in the air continuously.
5) The problem of continuity of the threat has begun to be overcome with drones & loitering munitions & satellites. The "stabbing" threat produced by these vehicles is 3-D like airplanes and also range-in-space is not inferior to airplanes. However, unlike airplanes, drones & loitering munitions & satellites can prolong the duration of the threat. For example, a TB-3 can stay in the air for days. An FPV drone can land at a high point and wait for its victim like a mine for days. Satellites are always up there anyway.
Each breakthrough advanced the measure of the "stabbing" action occupied in 4-dimensional space-time and the intensity of the action. For the simple knife, the range of attack-in-space was arm's length and there was only one direction the attack could come from. The intensity of the action was almost non-existent. Very few "stabbings" per unit of time were possible with arm strength.
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1) The the range of attack-in-space increased little bit thanks to the spear and sword, but other characteristics did not change. When the bow and arrow were invented, the range of attack-in-space was now tens of meters. This was the first breakthrough.
2) When explosives were added, the number of "stabbing" per unit of time, in other words, the intensity of the action, became almost uncountable. For example, with the explosion of a barrel of gunpowder, the "stabbing" action could be performed hundreds of thousands of times instantly.
3) When cannons came, the range of attack-in-space increased greatly. Now it was possible to "stab" the enemy from kilometers away.
4) With airplanes, both the range of attack-in-space increased to hundreds of kilometers and the directions from which the attack could come became diverse. Unlike cannons, the "stabbing" move of an airplane could be possible from any direction. The only problem for airplanes was that the range of attack-in-time was small. The airplane could not prolong the duration of the threat because it could not stay in the air continuously.
5) The problem of continuity of the threat has begun to be overcome with drones & loitering munitions & satellites. The "stabbing" threat produced by these vehicles is 3-D like airplanes and also range-in-space is not inferior to airplanes. However, unlike airplanes, drones & loitering munitions & satellites can prolong the duration of the threat. For example, a TB-3 can stay in the air for days. An FPV drone can land at a high point and wait for its victim like a mine for days. Satellites are always up there anyway.
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I would like to add tanks to your list. War zones were made of impassable trenches protected by machine guns. After the first usage of tanks and armoured vehicles, it became possible to break trough these lines and WW1 has gotten a new shape. Until then, front line soldiers were being sent to die and no significant process came trough. 𝙄𝙩 𝙠𝙞𝙡𝙡𝙚𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙪𝙣𝙗𝙚𝙖𝙩𝙖𝙗𝙡𝙚 𝙩𝙧𝙚𝙣𝙘𝙝 𝙙𝙚𝙛𝙚𝙣𝙘𝙚 𝙨𝙩𝙧𝙖𝙩𝙚𝙜𝙮 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙧𝙚 𝙬𝙖𝙨 𝙛𝙤𝙧 𝙙𝙚𝙘𝙖𝙙𝙚𝙨. Also inspired engineers and commanders to find more ways to break trenches.
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Apparently, MKE is developing a new loitering munition family:
www.savunmatr.com
Stating that they are working on 5-6 types of ammunition in total, Kıyak continued as follows:
“As you know, the biggest enemy of circulating ammunition is mixers, also known as jammers. First, we are developing an ammunition to destroy it. You throw it into the air and it attacks wherever it receives a signal.
Then, you can use your drone systems more easily on the battlefield. At this point, as MKE, we will produce three types of loitering ammunition, all of which are GPS-guided, short, medium and long range.”
Ümit Kıyak added that they will also make a fourth loitering ammunition with a very heavy warhead that will go to longer ranges, but he emphasized that not everything is ‘long range’.
Reminding that sometimes it is necessary to get results at very short distances, Kıyak stated that MKE is working on both wire-guided and laser-guided systems for this. He shared the information that their aim is to make small drones that will sometimes see and destroy the target.
Ümit Kıyak, who also announced the schedule for the loitering ammunition signed by MKE, said, “We will test our short and medium-range snaking ammunition at the end of March. We will make the first three drones of our program in question ready for mass production this year. While working on the projects, we are also creating the mass production infrastructure in parallel.”
MKE’den kritik adım: Dolanan mühimmat geliyor
Türkiye’nin en köklü savunma sanayii firmalarından MKE harp sahasının değişen dinamiklerine hızla ayak uyduruyor. MKE Genel Müdür Yardımcısı Ümit Kıyak,
www.savunmatr.com
Stating that they are working on 5-6 types of ammunition in total, Kıyak continued as follows:
“As you know, the biggest enemy of circulating ammunition is mixers, also known as jammers. First, we are developing an ammunition to destroy it. You throw it into the air and it attacks wherever it receives a signal.
Then, you can use your drone systems more easily on the battlefield. At this point, as MKE, we will produce three types of loitering ammunition, all of which are GPS-guided, short, medium and long range.”
Ümit Kıyak added that they will also make a fourth loitering ammunition with a very heavy warhead that will go to longer ranges, but he emphasized that not everything is ‘long range’.
Reminding that sometimes it is necessary to get results at very short distances, Kıyak stated that MKE is working on both wire-guided and laser-guided systems for this. He shared the information that their aim is to make small drones that will sometimes see and destroy the target.
Ümit Kıyak, who also announced the schedule for the loitering ammunition signed by MKE, said, “We will test our short and medium-range snaking ammunition at the end of March. We will make the first three drones of our program in question ready for mass production this year. While working on the projects, we are also creating the mass production infrastructure in parallel.”
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I don't understand this claymore fetish of STM, it would be far more effective if this drone wasn't so directional.View attachment 75171
STM, one of the leading companies in the Turkish defence industry, unveils the First-Person View (FPV) Kamikaze Drone as a new force on the battlefield. Türkiye’s indigenous KARGU FPV Kamikaze Drone successfully hit its target in its first test firing.
Technical Specifications
Range : 10 km
Endurance : 20+ minutes kamikaze mode
: 44 minutes observation mode (without ammunition and fuze)
Mission Altitude : 500 m
Maximum Altitude : 5500 m (MSL)
Warhead : 1,300 gr Anti-Personnel (820 particulate balls)
Maximum Speed : 160 km/h
Platform Take-off Weight: 3650 gr (with ammunition)
Operating Temperature Conditions: -20/+ 60 °C
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Turkish Special Forces rolled out some package of FPVs and fibre optic UAVs here
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Fvck!!! Houthis use -hydrogen fuel cell- powered drones!!
WTF
Do we have such technology?
I didn't expect hydrogen fuel cell technology could be useful in aviation!!!
The technology increases 5times range of batteries while using advantage of very low thermal signature.
Crazy. So fuel cell technology really gives advantage.
WTF
Do we have such technology?
I didn't expect hydrogen fuel cell technology could be useful in aviation!!!
The technology increases 5times range of batteries while using advantage of very low thermal signature.
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Crazy. So fuel cell technology really gives advantage.
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If they pull this off (properly) it'll be a great option to have, imagine dedicating an UGV to carry a swarm of drones (a simple UGV basically made to carry drones) and act as relay, delivering them to the front, keeping our soldiers safe.
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This is fucking amazing, I love it. Put this on USVs and they'll be an incredible force multiplier to deal with enemy ships, saturating the air defences while keeping the delivery platform completely safe. Use it with TB2/3 or Anka and they can engage from a safe distance. Yeah, I love this thing.EREN Loitering Munition was unveiled at IDEF 2025!
Range of over 100 km
We silently developed our own "Coyote". And probably it is 10 times cheaper.EREN Loitering Munition was unveiled at IDEF 2025!
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I really wish they stopped using this claymore payload and go for something more substantial.
