TR Small Aerial Drones & Loitering Ammunitions

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Looks cool but ultimately pointless for us; those drones have 5-10 km range at most, if a TB2 can already fly that close with impunity we would barely need them.

TB2 and TB3 are designed to get up close and fight. Munitions such as MAM-L pack a punch and proved to be quite effective, but there is absolutely a need for drones too.

Besides, it looks like it would need some time to release all of the drones one by one, meaning it has to circle the target area (if there is one) making it even an easier target.

It would take less than a minute to release them all. Once released they can to varying degrees act independently.


I've mentioned this concept multiple times before.

If you look at the Iran-US war, Iran hit US bases with ballistic missiles. Not all these hits necessarily targetted HVTs, many just hit nearby. Shaheds were more numerous and more accurate, but a Shahed is still more expensive than a small quadcopter.

If the software and targeting systems on these quadcopters are good enough, a single TB2 could wipe out all assets on an airbase in minutes. Anything that looks like a plane will be pounced on, and with the communication between these little menaces, it's likely that each quadcopter will focus on its own target rather than multiple drones wasted on a single target.

When an airbase stretches for kilometres you have two choices, quadcopters or Gazap

 

[boredaf]

TB2 and TB3 are designed to get up close and fight. Munitions such as MAM-L pack a punch and proved to be quite effective, but there is absolutely a need for drones too.




It would take less than a minute to release them all. Once released they can to varying degrees act independently.


I've mentioned this concept multiple times before.

If you look at the Iran-US war, Iran hit US bases with ballistic missiles. Not all these hits necessarily targetted HVTs, many just hit nearby. Shaheds were more numerous and more accurate, but a Shahed is still more expensive than a small quadcopter.

If the software and targeting systems on these quadcopters are good enough, a single TB2 could wipe out all assets on an airbase in minutes. Anything that looks like a plane will be pounced on, and with the communication between these little menaces, it's likely that each quadcopter will focus on its own target rather than multiple drones wasted on a single target.

When an airbase stretches for kilometres you have two choices, quadcopters or Gazap

Up close is how we kept losing drones, there is a reason we kept producing longer range, lightweight options; and we would lose even more now since everyone is investing more and more in air defence of various types.

Flying a TB2 over an enemy airbase is absolutely laughable mate, the only way that ever happens if we already won the war and enemy has no air defences, not even MANPADS. How on earth is a slow moving, not even remotely stealthy TB2 is getting within 5 km of an airbase exactly?

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Up close is how we kept losing drones, there is a reason we kept producing longer range, lightweight options; and we would lose even more now since everyone is investing more and more in air defence of various types.

Flying a TB2 over an enemy airbase is absolutely laughable mate, the only way that ever happens if we already won the war and enemy has no air defences, not even MANPADS. How on earth is a slow moving, not even remotely stealthy TB2 is getting within 5 km of an airbase exactly?

TB2 and 3 are tools in a much larger arsenal. If you don't use them right then of course you'll lose them at high rates.

Obviously you'd do heavy SEAD/DEAD in an a war. To maximise the survivability of your aircraft.

Obviously the concept of mounting drones to a TB2 can extend to more capable platforms in the future. But as it stands, this is a great start. If you're saturating an enemies airspace surrounding an airbase and and a single TB2 with 16 quadcopters gets close it's game over for most of the parked jets and helicopters.

My airbase example is one extreme scenario. But we can imagine it's usefulness in less contested zones.

 

[boredaf]

TB2 and 3 are tools in a much larger arsenal. If you don't use them right then of course you'll lose them at high rates.

Like trying to fly them over enemy air bases? Any enemy that still has planes will likely have air defences as well.

a single TB2 with 16 quadcopters gets close it's game over for most of the parked jets and helicopters.

You are vastly overestimating the capabilities of drones mate. Most of them carry less than a kg of explosive. You know these drones don't have satcom, right? Do you want another drone with satcom to circle closeby so that they can be controlled?

If you're saturating an enemies airspace surrounding an airbase

Then you simply bomb them from afar without trying to send a drone with 16 smaller drones within 5 km of the airbase? You know th

But we can imagine it's usefulness in less contested zones.

And what use are they in less contested zones that normal munitions aren't? Enemy sees TB2 coming, slowly releasing drones then drones stabilise and move towards the enemy? Mam-L or even Cirit would be a better choice than releasing drones like that.