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Summary of the procurement debacle from: https://thumkar.blogspot.com/2026/01/how-outrageously-ambitious-indian-navy.html
The ET reports that Germany and India are poised to sign a deal worth over $8 billion for the supply of six SSKs, with transfer of technology, during Chancellor Friedrich Merz’s visit to India next week
Project 75I has been delayed primarily because the Indian Navy drafted qualitative requirements that were excessively ambitious.
This import was not inevitable. Had the Indian Navy set realistic qualitative requirements at the outset, L&T—armed with SSN-building experience—could have built what the Navy is now buying from TKMS, filling gaps through partners of its own choosing.
The Indian Navy may then have obtained far more than it is getting now—including submarines built with Indian steel, missiles (vertical launch Brahmos), torpedoes, and full intellectual property rights for future exports.
The ET reports that Germany and India are poised to sign a deal worth over $8 billion for the supply of six SSKs, with transfer of technology, during Chancellor Friedrich Merz’s visit to India next week
Conclusion
The DAC approved procurement of 6 submarines under Project 75I in October 2014.Project 75I has been delayed primarily because the Indian Navy drafted qualitative requirements that were excessively ambitious.
This import was not inevitable. Had the Indian Navy set realistic qualitative requirements at the outset, L&T—armed with SSN-building experience—could have built what the Navy is now buying from TKMS, filling gaps through partners of its own choosing.
The Indian Navy may then have obtained far more than it is getting now—including submarines built with Indian steel, missiles (vertical launch Brahmos), torpedoes, and full intellectual property rights for future exports.
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Navy, Germany’s TKMS wrap up cost negotiations for new submarines, P-75I deal likely early next fiscal
It is estimated the deal would eventually work out to cost around $9 bn at least for 6 submarines—negotiated down by India. Original bid by state-run MDL & TKMS was over Rs 1.2 lakh cr.
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Naval Group graphic on the Indian AIP integration on Scorpene-class boats:
The refit of the 2nd Scorpene (Kalvari)-class boat will also include integration of the indigenous EHWT torpedo.
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~ 7.3 billion USD
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Centre okays ₹70,000-crore deal for six made-in-India submarines
Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders Limited (MDL) and German yard thyssenkrupp Marine Systems (tkMS) will build the submarines in Mumbai. | India News
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~ 7.3 billion USD
Centre okays ₹70,000-crore deal for six made-in-India submarines
Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders Limited (MDL) and German yard thyssenkrupp Marine Systems (tkMS) will build the submarines in Mumbai. | India News
I'm quite baffled at the apparent speed of Project-75I's contract progression in recent times...to the point where I have to wonder if it's just a coincidence that the P-75I program began to accelerate at around the same time as the negotiations for a Free Trade Agreement (FTA) with the European Union also saw tremendous acceleration. This FTA was being negotiated at a slow pace for over 18 years, with either side making little to no progress at each round of meetings...and then boom, everything was falling into place and we went from concluding negotiations to putting pen on paper in just a few quick months at the end (though the FTA may yet take some time to be ratified by each of the EU member nations' Parliaments).
Obviously, Trump's tariff regimes were the kick-start that both India & the EU needed to start looking toward other markets and conclude new trade deals as quickly as possible.
I'm left to wonder if the renewed interest and pace of progression in the P-75I (another deal that was stuck in an endless loop for a decade) is a form of quid-pro-quo to 'lubricate' the FTA negotiations, or potentially help India gain more favourable terms of trade. Germany is of course the biggest economy in Europe and is the primary party that you have to deal with if you want those favourable terms.
It's just a theory though!
Oh and by the way, it seems there's also significant progress being made in parallel in the Project-76 program, an entirely indigenous diesel-electric submarine project, for which a requirement of 6 to 12 boats was stated. Apparently, the process of detailed technical design is underway (as per Sandeep Unnithan who is very reliable), with significant inputs from both the Arihant-class as well as the Scorpene-class build programs.
Interestingly, P-76 is apparently being pursued under the ATV program! And it will be a single-hulled submarine (so not just a denuclearized Arihant, which is double-hulled) and will displace around 3,000 tons. First orders for onboard equipment are expected to go out by 2028 or so.
