TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Fuzuli NL]

I hope we see TFX with gold-tinted canopy at some point.

 

[Raptor]

I hope we see TFX with gold-tinted canopy at some point.

You mean indium tinOxide?

 

[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1385881126045114369

 

[Stuka]

TAI CEO Temel Kotil Interview.

Around Min 32.00

> 2nd largest wind Tunnel will be finished at the End of 2022 and cost a whopping 100 Million USD
> Power Consumption is expected to be 15 Megawatts!

TF-X

> He says 10 Billion will be spend and at least 5 Billion USD of that are for Engineers Salaries in 10 Years Time
- Even though he said 60 Billion for Program Cost. That might be too high.

 

[TheInsider]

60 billion $ budget includes R&D expenditures, technological and manufacturing investments(wind tunnel, lightning test center, composite factory etc), salaries of engineer and workers, prototype aircraft, price of 250 aircraft to be procured and life cycle costs of those aircrafts.

Fly away cost of serial production fighter is expected to be 80 million $.

 

[Yasar_TR]

TAI CEO Temel Kotil Interview.

Around Min 32.00

> 2nd largest wind Tunnel will be finished at the End of 2022 and cost a whopping 100 Million USD
> Power Consumption is expected to be 15 Megawatts!

TF-X

> He says 10 Billion will be spend and at least 5 Billion USD of that are for Engineers Salaries in 10 Years Time
- Even though he said 60 Billion for Program Cost. That might be too high.

He said from what they have read, f35 prototype cost was 60billion dollars.
(Of course the cost of the whole program was much higher due to problems encountered. But the initial prototype cost was 60billion dollars.)

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr Kotil: TfX phase-1 budget is 1,3 billion $

 

[Khagan1923]

Mr Kotil: TfX phase-1 budget is 1,3 billion $

Did he say what phase-1 entails?

 

[Zafer]

With 60.000 mtow and 60.000 engine thrust TFX will have thrust to weight ratio of 1.
TAI website reads 2x27.000lbf but Mr. Kotil said 30.000 lbf for engine thrust.

 

[Zafer]

TFX will roll out under its own engine power in 18 March 2023, only 23 months to go, exciting progress.
Seems like only 2 years behind KFX now or even less.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr Kotil: We are constructing the second biggest subsonic windtunnel of the Europe and Tubitak is constructing supersonic windtunnel.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr Kotil: Pakistani origin British citizen experienced engineers joined to TfX development program. "Hundreds" of similar experienced engineers (British citizen muslims (?)) who took clearence from British defence ministry is coming for TfX now. @Waz

 

[TheInsider]

Total cost of TF-X project is expected to be between 50-60 billion $. This figure includes everything.

9 prototype +250 Fighters=25 billion.
Salaries: 5 billion $
R&D and investment budget: 5 billion $
Life cycle costs: 25 billion $

 

[Glass🚬]

Is the order of 250 fighters confirmed?

 

[TheInsider]

Not confirmed officially. The info came from a source. Overall 24 fighters will be produced for TuAF every year for ~10 years. TF-X project serial production phase will continue till the end of 2030s.

 

[Anmdt]

TAI CEO Temel Kotil Interview.

Around Min 32.00

> 2nd largest wind Tunnel will be finished at the End of 2022 and cost a whopping 100 Million USD
> Power Consumption is expected to be 15 Megawatts!

TF-X

> He says 10 Billion will be spend and at least 5 Billion USD of that are for Engineers Salaries in 10 Years Time
- Even though he said 60 Billion for Program Cost. That might be too high.

What is operational for now:
Tübitak Ankara wind tunnel
ODTU Rüzgem Large wind tunnel

To be:
Tübitak large trisonic wind tunnel
TAI large wind tunnel

for comparison, ODTU LWT has power of 3 MW, Ankara LWT has 1 MW.

there will be 4 large wind tunnels will be operational by 2023, Ankara wind tunnel can be decommissioned as well or they can overhaul it further for munitions only.

 

[Zafer]

What is operational for now:
Tübitak Ankara wind tunnel
ODTU Rüzgem Large wind tunnel

To be:
Tübitak large trisonic wind tunnel
TAI large wind tunnel

for comparison, ODTU LWT has power of 3 MW, Ankara LWT has 1 MW.

there will be 4 large wind tunnels will be operational by 2023, Ankara wind tunnel can be decommissioned as well or they can overhaul it further for munitions only.

Winds are pretty strong nowadays, time to take off.

 

[Test7]

TF-X

 

[Zafer]

TF-X

View attachment 19169

Such a bully!

 

[Cypro]

If push comes to shove, there is Motor Sich AI24 engine with 1650hp shaft power turbo prop engine.

AI-24 - Motor Sich

View attachment 19158

Unfortunately not possible, everything has been designed for that size and weight. You have to create another plane from scratch for another engine, PT6A-68 weights 270kg while AI-24 is 600 kg. Size, fuel consumption, weight etc. everything is different. Only sustainable solution is to design a similar engine by using TS1400 core. For comparison CTS800-4A weights 163kg without shaft / gearbox and 185 with shaft, so TS1400 would better suit the role in couple of years..