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The height was never 6 meters; it was previously estimated/calculated that GTU-0 was 5.1 meters. Now, we have a late confirmation of this. Additionally, the length was calculated to be 20.2 meters, and the wingspan was 13.3 meters. Interestingly, the weight data remains constant. Considering this length is very close to the calculated dimensions for GTU-0, and we were expecting a shortening, it provides further evidence that the photo above is not recent. If it indeed represents GTU-0, the weight data—announced as approximately 25 tons—would make sense.
There might be an update with P1, or perhaps this data was deliberately shared during this period to mislead. However, it seems the actual aircraft will be only slightly longer than the F-22.
The wing area dimensions result in very low wing loading for an aircraft weighing only 60,000 lbs. Coupled with a total thrust of 72,000 lbf with thrust vectoring, the potential for impressive maneuverability is evident.
There might be an update with P1, or perhaps this data was deliberately shared during this period to mislead. However, it seems the actual aircraft will be only slightly longer than the F-22.
The wing area dimensions result in very low wing loading for an aircraft weighing only 60,000 lbs. Coupled with a total thrust of 72,000 lbf with thrust vectoring, the potential for impressive maneuverability is evident.
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Tolga Özbek is a serious person.
Yeah, but he is basing his comment on Haluk Görgüns statement.
it is the first prototype(P0)Better source. I'm 70% sure this is P0. Man second from right looks Arab, possibly during the Saudi visit. They've had no other big visits since then.
how to make sense of this hot mess? all of the defence publications jumped on it and shared it as the new prototype(including DefenceTurk). none of them questions the absurdity and serve it as it is from the horse's mouth. some(Tolga Özbek) are even scolding his followers, saying "do you think Haluk Görgün is lying"?
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1. He misspoke
2. They used the wrong picture
There is no reason to lie. We all know the second aircraft, P1, is on the assembly line. Someone fucked up, the question is who and where.
yeah ofc he's not lying. there's a mixup somewhere in the chain.
what baffled me was the lack of fact checking of the defence publications. like how can you believe that this is the second prototype? why doesn't anyone raise any questions? aren't you supposed to know a little bit better than the usual, clueless spectators?
what a gullible bunch. it speaks volumes for the state of journalism in this country.
well it was a before unseen photo and it was first posted as a pixelated "leaked image" shot via phone.
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Not lying, but maybe misinterpreting.
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This is from Dec 20th,2024
and this is today(not even a month later)
so at this rate, we're on track to deliver 20 KAANs this year, two years before the original schedule!
maybe that was the 5th prototype?
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I was going to laugh in first but this may have some logic tho. They're showing a photo saying it's P1 but most of us think it's most probably not. So there is something wrong here. Same could be for the photo from the production lane. It was told to be P1 but it may be P2 or P3 just as you say.
The first thing I noticed was not the signature on it. It was IRST and EOTS just as @KAAN noticed. It was clearly told the P1 will have these. Sure there's something weird but the question is at what point ?
The photo has a printer fighter which is not expected nor acceptable for a prototype.
P1 p2 are being produced and this was stated many times before. Haluk Gorgun states that it is P1 but maybe he wants to express that p1 is close state of being completed for further tests.
P1 p2 are being produced and this was stated many times before. Haluk Gorgun states that it is P1 but maybe he wants to express that p1 is close state of being completed for further tests.
it is not the second KAAN. please have some common sense. A month ago Haluk Görgün shared the bulkheads of the aircraft and in the same tweet he explicitly said it's the second prototype.
we've been over this. there is a misunderstanding. what you see on that photo is the first prototype. 100%
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He says second fighters in the video. Didn't see the tweet what you are writing about. We should ask people where it is or find the complete video of this meeting.
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"2025 yılı sonunda ilk uçuşunu gerçekleştirecek ikinci prototipimizin üretim ve montaj faaliyetlerini yerinde inceledik."
Translation: "We examined the production and assembly activities of our second prototype, which will make its first flight at the end of 2025."
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What do you think about a retractable and flexible rudder? I mean the vertical stabilizers, where they can be but from a horizontal position in to a vertical position. I saw this in an animation video of a Japanese 6.gen fighter jet.
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