TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[KAAN]

TF-36000

According to the latest statement by SSB President Haluk Görgün, the indigenous engine will produce 36.000lbf thrust.

It was probably around 38.000lbf with the normal nozzle, it may have been decided as 36.000lbf since TVC was included, it was clear from the officials' recent articles and statements that TVC would be included.

 

[cr33pt3d]

I can see it already has landing gear, means it will probably fly this summer .at this rate maybe TAI will have all 6 proto ready by late 2026.
I'm really curious to the placement of the vertical stabilizers, are they still on top of the engine or did they move it to the right side

 

[Sanchez]

Better source. I'm 70% sure this is P0. Man second from right looks Arab, possibly during the Saudi visit. They've had no other big visits since then.

 

[KAAN]

And the new prototype will likely include IRST and EOTS faceted glass enclosures.

It hasn't been long since images from the assembly line have been shared, and it is unlikely that the aircraft will be painted. And I don't think a prototype that allegedly includes major changes, no matter who or what it's for, will show itself to another state's official so early.

Also, the president's signature will only be on the GTU-0, and it will probably be displayed in the museum as well. He signed it during the naming ceremony on 1.5.2023. A classic election period...

Also on the landing gear?

There are no landing gear covers in the photo.

Most likely an old image.

 

[KAAN]

For the first time since June 17, 2019, the technical specifications were updated by TAI itself.

Wingspan from 14 meters to 13.4 meters

Lenght from 21 meters to 20.3 meters

Height from 6 meters to 5 meters

Wing area from 70m2 to 71.6m2

Still; 1.8 mach maximum speed, 55.000ft maximum ceiling and 60.000lb MTOW.

https://www.tusas.com/content/files/uploads/236/TechnicSpec_TR_KAAN.pdf

Edit: The calculations used F110 engines, which is reasonable considering the speed and maximum altitude, but it is strange that supercruise capability is also listed as such.

 

[fushkee]

1 meter in height is huge actually.

 

[KAAN]

The height was never 6 meters; it was previously estimated/calculated that GTU-0 was 5.1 meters. Now, we have a late confirmation of this. Additionally, the length was calculated to be 20.2 meters, and the wingspan was 13.3 meters. Interestingly, the weight data remains constant. Considering this length is very close to the calculated dimensions for GTU-0, and we were expecting a shortening, it provides further evidence that the photo above is not recent. If it indeed represents GTU-0, the weight data—announced as approximately 25 tons—would make sense.

There might be an update with P1, or perhaps this data was deliberately shared during this period to mislead. However, it seems the actual aircraft will be only slightly longer than the F-22.

The wing area dimensions result in very low wing loading for an aircraft weighing only 60,000 lbs. Coupled with a total thrust of 72,000 lbf with thrust vectoring, the potential for impressive maneuverability is evident.

 

[Huelague]

Claimed to be Kaan P1, second prototype. But I have my doubts, might just be P0 as well.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1879137541271568739

Tolga Özbek is a serious person.

 

[RMZN]

Tolga Özbek is a serious person.

Yeah, but he is basing his comment on Haluk Görgüns statement.

 

[hugh]

Better source. I'm 70% sure this is P0. Man second from right looks Arab, possibly during the Saudi visit. They've had no other big visits since then.

it is the first prototype(P0)

 

[hugh]

how to make sense of this hot mess? all of the defence publications jumped on it and shared it as the new prototype(including DefenceTurk). none of them questions the absurdity and serve it as it is from the horse's mouth. some(Tolga Özbek) are even scolding his followers, saying "do you think Haluk Görgün is lying"?

 

[Khagan1923]

how to make sense of this hot mess? all of the defence publications jumped on it and shared it as the new prototype(including DefenceTurk). none of them questions the absurdity and serve it as it is from the horse's mouth. some(Tolga Özbek) are even scolding his followers, saying "do you think Haluk Görgün is lying"?

1. He misspoke

2. They used the wrong picture

There is no reason to lie. We all know the second aircraft, P1, is on the assembly line. Someone fucked up, the question is who and where.

 

[hugh]

1. He misspoke

2. They used the wrong picture

There is no reason to lie. We all know the second aircraft, P1, is on the assembly line. Someone fucked up, the question is who and where.

yeah ofc he's not lying. there's a mixup somewhere in the chain.

what baffled me was the lack of fact checking of the defence publications. like how can you believe that this is the second prototype? why doesn't anyone raise any questions? aren't you supposed to know a little bit better than the usual, clueless spectators?

what a gullible bunch. it speaks volumes for the state of journalism in this country.

 

[RMZN]

yeah ofc he's not lying. there's a mixup somewhere in the chain.

what baffled me was the lack of fact checking of the defence publications. like how can you believe that this is the second prototype? why doesn't anyone raise any questions? aren't you supposed to know a little bit better than the usual, clueless spectators?

what a gullible bunch. it speaks volumes for the state of journalism in this country.

well it was a before unseen photo and it was first posted as a pixelated "leaked image" shot via phone.

 

[Strong AI]

What did they smoke?

In the second prototype of KAAN, it was observed that there were significant design changes compared to the first prototype, particularly with the reduction of the aircraft's nose section.

İşte KAAN savaş uçağının ikinci prototipi! | SavunmaSanayiST

KAAN savaş uçağının ikinci prototipi, ilk kez görüntülendi. Milli savaş uçağının yeni prototipinde, önemli tasarımsal değişikliklerin olduğu gözlemlendi.

www.savunmasanayist.com

 

[Huelague]

how to make sense of this hot mess? all of the defence publications jumped on it and shared it as the new prototype(including DefenceTurk). none of them questions the absurdity and serve it as it is from the horse's mouth. some(Tolga Özbek) are even scolding his followers, saying "do you think Haluk Görgün is lying"?

Not lying, but maybe misinterpreting.

 

[hugh]

This is from Dec 20th,2024

and this is today(not even a month later)

so at this rate, we're on track to deliver 20 KAANs this year, two years before the original schedule!

 

[Oublious]

This is from Dec 20th,2024

and this is today(not even a month later)

so at this rate, we're on track to deliver 20 KAANs this year, two years before the original schedule!

maybe that was the 5th prototype?

 

[Turkic]

maybe that was the 5th prototype?

I was going to laugh in first but this may have some logic tho. They're showing a photo saying it's P1 but most of us think it's most probably not. So there is something wrong here. Same could be for the photo from the production lane. It was told to be P1 but it may be P2 or P3 just as you say.

The first thing I noticed was not the signature on it. It was IRST and EOTS just as @KAAN noticed. It was clearly told the P1 will have these. Sure there's something weird but the question is at what point ?

 

[Samba]

The photo has a printer fighter which is not expected nor acceptable for a prototype.

P1 p2 are being produced and this was stated many times before. Haluk Gorgun states that it is P1 but maybe he wants to express that p1 is close state of being completed for further tests.