TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Oublious]

So will we still buy the 40 F-16V?

yes, F4 Terminators are 50 years old.

 

[Huelague]

Kotil said that they will start to develop passenger plan after 5 years. Do we have more informations? @MADDOG

 

[MADDOG]

Kotil said that they will start to develop passenger plan after 5 years. Do we have more informations? @MADDOG

I possess no info on the current state of TAI's civil aviation programs (most notably the aforementioned passenger aircraft, as it is most probably in very early stages of development).

It's good to be back btw.

 

[Pilatino]

I possess no info on the current state of TAI's civil aviation programs (most notably the aforementioned passenger aircraft, as it is most probably in very early stages of development).

It's good to be back btw.

Won't they work on
1) Mule / Cargo UAVs
2) Global Hawk like
3) Pseudo satellite >55k feet solar long endurance UAVs
4) Last but not least, Kızılelma like pure Unmanned fighters?

Before that or maybe at the same time?

4th one is the biggest question on my mind.

 

[Zafer]

Won't they work on
1) Mule / Cargo UAVs
2) Global Hawk like
3) Pseudo satellite >55k feet solar long endurance UAVs
4) Last but not least, Kızılelma like pure Unmanned fighters?

Before that or maybe at the same time?

4th one is the biggest question on my mind.

None of these is a priority. Even the passenger plane comes before these on the priority list. 4th answer, not before the 6th generation work matures. There is already Kızılelma and unless Kızılelma sells in big numbers or fails miserably leaving the field empty and the force wants another one besides Kızılelma which I doubt, there is no point in duplicating efforts. It would be like a madman harming himself by crushing his left hand with his right hand.

 

[Ripley]

It's good to be back btw.

And it’s good to have you back, too

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1686665582937071616

 

[I_Love_F16]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1686665582937071616

@boredaf Look what is happening. We’re giving one of our most critical project to China.

 

[Zafer]

@boredaf Look what is happening. We’re giving one of our most critical project to China.

More like we are taking Pakistan from China.

 

[Bozan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1686665582937071616

One nation, 3 states

 

[Bozan]

More like we are taking Pakistan from China.

Do you have the money to fund them ?

 

[Bürküt]

One nation, 3 states

Rahmetli Elçibey turned upside down in his tomb...

 

[Deliorman]

If this happens the project is officially dead... Congrats.

 

[Zafer]

Do you have the money to fund them ?

We don't need to have money for this, we can mobilize somebody else's money.

 

[Afif]

For those who are thinking Pakistan is going to give up critical KAAN techs to China, I humbly urge you to consider the fact that, in international strategic defence cooperation that's not how things really works.

(Also, There is a misconception that Pak has increasingly became a vessel state of PRC. But anybody with decent understanding of subcontinent's politics or Pak state would knows that is not what Pakistan's actual problem is.)


Anyway, it doesn't matter if Pakistan assemble or manufacture the KAAN's fuselage. Like F-35, KAAN is an in-and-out software defined platform.

Italy and Japan both has F-35's local production line, yet they cannot even control a bolt without US permission.

There is a saying that USA doesn't sell the F-35, it only sell sorties.
You can expect Türkiye would assert similar control of KAAN when exporting aboard.

The main issue is, for now Pak has absolutely zero money. (Like literally) So i don't know what their contributions would be in the near future.
(Maybe their engineers would work for free?)

 

[I_Love_F16]

The main issue is, for now Pak has absolutely zero money. (Like literally) So i don't know what their contributions would be in the near future.

Like you said, they don’t even have the necessary fund to support the project. So what will they bring to the table ?

 

[Peter66]

Like you said, they don’t even have the necessary fund to support the project. So what will they bring to the table ?

Exchange for nukes or tech on these ?

 

[I_Love_F16]

Exchange for nukes or tech on these ?

Highly unlikely. Pretty sure Turkiye have the necessary means to built nuke on it’s own. It’s just a matter of political will.

 

[Sanchez]

Let's just hope that the possible deal with Pakistan is rock solid and gives more than few tens of pages to Pakistan's relationship with China re our IP rights; and we have guarantees from the US to not kill the entire thing. Too early to say anything at this stage.

 

[Khagan1923]

Let's just hope that the possible deal with Pakistan is rock solid and we have guarantees from the US to not kill the entire thing. Too early to say anything at this stage.

We know exactly how this will play out. Welcome Altay Version 2.0.

Pakistan has nothing to add to this project other than embargoes.

Adding a country that is being embargoed by the same country you are getting your engines from is peak Government move.

Congrats they once again managed to sabotage a strategic project.

Not only that Pakistan right now is surviving thanks to China if anyone here thinks they won’t give up classified information or technology to the Chinese once pressured to do so are delusional.

Nobody here should act surprised when information about Kaan suddenly leaks out on Chinese forums. Cause that is where this is heading.

With this they most likely also kill Hürjet before it even can enter inventory for the next 10 years. Bravo!

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