TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

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Building a whole-ass carrier just for Hürjet? Don't know. This seems like buying a Porsche 911 Turbo S and swapping the engine to a renault one with 100hp.
As much as I think Hürjet will be more capable than people think and a nice lightfighter I do not think it is a aircraft you plan a carrier for your navy around.

Kaan is too big. Leaving the only option to either A. procure from another country (F-35B/C, F-18, Rafale-M, J-31) or TAI will develop a new aircraft.

There are so many question marks right now on this project, especially seeing how it won't get serious until we hit the 2030s. We can speculate but who knows what the world looks like in 10 years.
F/A-18 will be out of production soon.

A few years ago I read that KAI foresaw a navalised KF-21 being developed.

India's Tejas N proved to have inadequate capabilities for the IN and was abandoned, to be replaced by a proposed Twin Engined Deck Based Fighter design. The TEDBF may be available some time in the next decade.

Could Turkiye develop its own carrier aircraft in time for any proposed carrier?
 

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F/A-18 will be out of production soon.

A few years ago I read that KAI foresaw a navalised KF-21 being developed.

India's Tejas N proved to have inadequate capabilities for the IN and was abandoned, to be replaced by a proposed Twin Engined Deck Based Fighter design. The TEDBF may be available some time in the next decade.

Could Turkiye develop its own carrier aircraft in time for any proposed carrier?
I think there is no other option but Hürjet. Its Naval version will be made. With more advanced features like Aesa radar, stealt, lighter and more powerful engine etc.
 

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I think there is no other option but Hürjet. Its Naval version will be made. With more advanced features like Aesa radar, stealt, lighter and more powerful engine etc.
Apart from one word (stealth) I agree with your comment. I can’t see KAAN becoming a naval asset. It is just too complicated, expensive and big to be navalised. We need to walk before we run. May be after Hurjet is adapted in to a naval form at a later date a version of KAAN may be inducted to the naval command on a bigger newer ship that will do it justice.
TAI has got their eye on Hurjet to be navalised going forward. This has been mentioned by several officials. As a trainer and especially as an acrobatic plane, it is logical to expect a very manoeuvrable jet fighter.
It may however, need to have a more powerful engine to compensate the lift deficiency the plane may encounter under full load, especially if it hasn‘t had an increase in wing area to remedy it.

With a decent version of Murad Aesa radar it will be a very capable fighter. As well as performing air to air and air to surface warfare, it will improve and enhance the defensive capabilities of the very carrier it is stationed at.

However, due to its current overall design, I doubt it will be an effective stealthy plane. Had it been designed with a delta wing one would have expected an inherent low RCS value. But it is doubtful. Yet it would however be interesting to see what the current RCS value of our Hurjet is.
 
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Apart from one word (stealth) I agree with your comment.
TAI has got their eye on Hurjet to be navalised going forward. This has been mentioned by several officials. As a trainer and especially as an acrobatic plane, it is logical to expect a very manoeuvrable jet fighter.
It may however, need to have a more powerful engine to compensate the lift deficiency the plane may encounter under full load, especially if it hasn‘t had an increase in wing area to remedy it.

With a decent version of Murad Aesa radar it will be a very capable fighter. As well as performing air to air and air to surface warfare, it will improve and enhance the defensive capabilities of the very carrier it is stationed at.

However, due to its current overall design, I doubt it will be an effective stealthy plane. Had it been designed with a delta wing one would have expected an inherent low RCS value. But it is doubtful. Yet it would however be interesting to see what the current RCS value of our Hurjet is.
Hürjet already has a low payload, less than half of an F-16 and most other fighters, it definitely needs a stronger engine to be a proper fighter. I genuinely don't see the point of turning such a weak jet into a carrier based fighter when its sorties will be very limited.
 

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Hürjet already has a low payload, less than half of an F-16 and most other fighters, it definitely needs a stronger engine to be a proper fighter. I genuinely don't see the point of turning such a weak jet into a carrier based fighter when its sorties will be very limited.
Although you may have a valid point , please don’t discard the fact that Sea harriers have a weapons payload of max 3600kg. And they performed extremely well as a light attack naval aircraft in various instances; one of which was in Falklands.
So don’t under estimate a Hurjet with a 3 ton payload.

Ideally the cheapest and most effective way for us would be to build a sister ship of TCG Anadolu, and buy 36 F35Bs as US is offering us to go back to the JSF program. These planes can have a weapons payload of 22000 lbs. (10000kg) - a fact that has been tested by RAF.
 

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TAI has got their eye on Hurjet to be navalised going forward. This has been mentioned by several officials. As a trainer and especially as an acrobatic plane
Prof. Demir in Apr 2021 mentioned exactly that plan and he was even talking about TCG Anadolu

“We have been working on making changes in the design of Hürjet to operate on naval assets. We carried out several designs and made simulations. It has been seen that the design of its current form can evolve in this direction. The studies are also ongoing; the aim is to evolve Hürjet into a shipborne aircraft to operate it from TCG Anadolu.”
After this TAI Manager stated that TAI has been in talks with the Turkish Navy about operating Hürjet on LHD Anadolu, and they plan to make a protocol with the Turkish Navy to keep cooperation on this issues.
He also emphasized that the Hürjet can land and take off from a carrier and meet the operational needs of the Turkish Navy.
Several systems would be integrated into the aircraft to make it adaptable with naval assets.” the aircraft program manager added.

 

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God bless someone and share the video of the first flight😂
Cant find it anywhere😥😥😥😭😭
 

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Well, I guess I know what I'm doing with my day. Furiously refreshing multiple pages and then watching the video over and over again. Maybe with a little bit of moisturizer.
 

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