TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[alfonsvlora]

TBF the F16 Deal stalling is more on us than the americans. If we wanted the deal would be finalized tomorrow.

What are you talking about!?... the German mentality has infected you man...

 

[Yasar_TR]

TBF the F16 Deal stalling is more on us than the americans. If we wanted the deal would be finalized tomorrow.

True! US sources like pentagon and LM are a bit disappointed that we are dragging our feet regarding the f16 programme. May be we are too hopeful about returning back to f35 project. US sources say that they have gone out of their way and got the 23 billion dollar f16 and V70 upgrade programme through the approval system. But only for the Turks to cancel most of it and slowing down the production of 40 F16 planes.

Turkiye Pivots Towards F-35s, Slows F-16 Deal with the US | TURDEF

Turkish Air Force to form its future with stealth jets. Ankara may reroute $1.4bn F-16 payment to F-35 programme if readmitted under Trump administration.

turdef.com

@alfonsvlora , you should investigate in detail before blaming a member unjustly in an ad hominem manner, which is against forum rules too.

Also below LM article is interesting about the f16 partnership with Türkiye.

F-16 Türkiye

For over 70 years, Lockheed Martin has played a crucial role in strengthening Türkiye's defense and security capabilities through its aircraft, helicopters, and security solutions.

www.lockheedmartin.com

 

[Yasar_TR]

You are too late.

Bro, you have few things wrong in the way you look at things.
You don’t read the content in its entirety. But you are more interested in finding mistakes in what people post.
If you read the content of the whole post in detail, you would have realised that the bottom article is very relevant to the above part in it’s context.
You need to get your act together and concentrate on your posts rather than focusing on finding errors in others’.
This is my last warning to you.

 

[Hannibal]

TUSAS CEO Mehmet Demiroglu:
I can say that KAAN's stealth level will be at the same level as F35 or better. F35 RCS (Radar Cross Section) value, 0.001 m² or the size of a golf ball.

 

[mTT]

TUSAS CEO Mehmet Demiroglu:
I can say that KAAN's stealth level will be at the same level as F35 or better.

Source please.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1934701045688459532

 

[Afif]

Source please.

I mean RCS of F-22 is lower than RCS of F-35 and KAAN looks more like F-22, so it makes sense.

According to USAF officials, F-35 is more stealthy than F-22. It has been posted in the forum before in details.

 

[Sanchez]

"Turkish Aerospace "very close" to announcing second international customer for KAAN after Indonesia - CEO at Paris Air Show. Says issues such as F-35 'kill switch' debate, availability, price, tech transfer, MRO, etc all play to KAAN's strengths"

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1934906417128911021

 

[Sanchez]

@Strong AI , Saudi or bust.

 

[Pokemonte13]

Probably katar and saudi

 

[Afif]

It make sense. It's either a Chinese solution or the Turkish one. Given how Israel is behaving in the region.

 

[Saithan]

All of this is just interest and nothing more. tbh it's too soon to tell anything. even if Türkiye does the whole work and customers appear, our politicians would be willing to sell the whole R&D for a candy. Because that's how bad the economy is.

It's fine to go look for customers, but I don't see any value in announcing them as customers. everything is just a "potential". Every nation is a potential customer., including the US.

 

[NEKO]

Just buying KAAN or also join the development?

 

[Sanchez]

Just buying KAAN or also join the development?

"Development" is a loaded word in aircraft production. TAI have signed multiple contracts with multiple countries. TAI Azerbaijan, joint training models with Pakistan, TAI Malaysia etc. It's been announced that all these offices are also related to Kaan development aside from other larger projects between TR and those countries. It's clear that joining Kaan program includes some form of ToT to the buyer, we don't know the details. Looks like Turkey holds the IP on all development however.

To me, it looks like TR is open to share tech and is also very open to creating country specific versions of Kaan that will enable those countries to own their Kaans completely but also will not hurt the Turkish Kaans, so win win. For any possible development contracts TAI might give out, it should be first come, first serve as there are still years of development ahead.

 

[mTT]

Is this a teaser?

Are you ready to power up with TRMOTOR, the developer of Turkey’s first indigenous and national auxiliary power units? ✈

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1934947183415222584

APU - Auxiliary Power Unit

 

[Philip the Arab]

Probably katar and saudi

I think it may be a wildcard and be the UAE. I could be off base here but we’ll see.

They’ve been the closest to having the F-35 and are actively looking for something to eventually replace the F-16E.

Turkey gives industrial partnerships as well and the UAE has a burgeoning aerospace industry that wants to grow. With the money invested it could accelerate the development of key technologies especially engines which is of utmost importance.

Mirage replaced by Rafale
F-16E replaced by Kaan
unmanned UCAV for MUM-T

 

[TR_123456]

I think it may be a wildcard and be the UAE. I could be off base here but we’ll see.

They’ve been the closest to having the F-35 and are actively looking for something to eventually replace the F-16E.

Turkey gives industrial partnerships as well and the UAE has a burgeoning aerospace industry that wants to grow. With the money invested it could accelerate the development of key technologies especially engines which is of utmost importance.

Mirage replaced by Rafale
F-16E replaced by Kaan
unmanned UCAV for MUM-T

The UAE showed keen interest in the KF-21 Boramae.

 

[Philip the Arab]

The UAE showed keen interest in the KF-21 Boramae.

I’m aware of this, but it doesn’t mean much.

Not to slight the Koreans but the KF-21 isn’t much better than the F-16E. The KAAN is.

 

[mehmed beg]

Before I thought, why not sell KAAN to anybody who asks.
The last month or two, changed my mind.
If Turks sell KAAN to any Arab country, the enemies of Turkey would know everything about KAAN.
In any case, I don't think that they are serious

 

[Philip the Arab]

My bet is on Saudi

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50/50 for me, prove me wrong I’ll be happy.

 

[Philip the Arab]

We would need insider information to prove you wrong. So there is nothing to prove, only guesses.

It will be announced in a couple days most likely!