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Being it on! Share plz
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He talkig about the first flight or what?:unsure::unsure::unsure:
Yes he is, meaning simulator flight made him ready to fly Kaan very well.

My point is Kaan pilots should be fast tracked to Kaan skipping traditional lengthy training. With the Kaan smarts a healthy / fit individual can be trained to fly Kaan in a much shorter time than it usually takes for an F16 fighter. Pilot shortage shouldn't make a bottleneck ever again. Should be like driving a self driving car.
 

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Yes he is, meaning simulator flight made him ready to fly Kaan very well.

My point is Kaan pilots should be fast tracked to Kaan skipping traditional lengthy training. With the Kaan smarts a healthy / fit individual can be trained to fly Kaan in a much shorter time than it usually takes for an F16 fighter. Pilot shortage shouldn't make a bottleneck ever again. Should be like driving a self driving car.
Kaan is not self driving though, not yet, and perhaps not ever. And self driving cars are still not completely self driving and have caused plenty of accidents when people stopped paying attention.

It is beyond illogical to take one veteran pilot's works about how easy it was for HIM and turn it into "we don't need to train pilots properly to fly Kaan". Anyone who gets to fly it should take all the necessary steps of training beforehand and that'll still involved turboprop training, to jet trainer to simulator before tandem flights.
 

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Training jet fighter is lot more than just simply learning to fly. Or course, simulators and various things help but, learning the weapons systems, behaviour or avionics in the various scenarios, tactical flight profiles, cooperation with other flying assets and ground crews are necessary.
Of course, simulators speed up those processes and make them cheaper.
 

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Training jet fighter is lot more than just simply learning to fly. Or course, simulators and various things help but, learning the weapons systems, behaviour or avionics in the various scenarios, tactical flight profiles, cooperation with other flying assets and ground crews are necessary.
Of course, simulators speed up those processes and make them cheaper.
Costs&time Costs&time Costs&time Costs&time Costs&time
not a short path to readiness, Türkiye can afford it now but not ideal
if it was a short path to a pilot you can deploy many more in many locations
We need Somalian, Libyan and other nations' pilots to fly them in an affordable timeframe, similar to UAV pilots. We don't need pilots who know everthing but want to retire to be a passenger plane pilot. We have 18000 of passenger plane pilots by the way.
 
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KAAN Technical Specifications

Power source: 2 × General Electric F110-GE-129 afterburner turbofan (Planned for prototypes and 20 Block-10 production units) (In the future, a 36,000 pound-force engine produced by TEI under TR Motor license will be used.)
Thrust without afterburner: 2 × 17,155 pound-force (76 kN)
Thrust with afterburner: 2 × 29,400 pound-force (131 kN)
Performance
Maximum speed: Mach 1.8 (2,210 km/h; 1,190 kN)
Service ceiling: 55,000 feet (17,000 m)
G limit: +9g / -3.5g
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 34,750 kg [56]

These are the technical specifications of the KAAN with American engines.
The TF-35000 is significantly more powerful.
Have technical specifications of the KAAN with Turkish engines been published?

Or am I missing something?
 

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According to the President’s statements, we have invited Saudi Arabia to participate in the KAAN project.

I believe that with Saudi Arabia’s participation, the project would progress much faster and the risks would be reduced to a minimum. I hope Saudi Arabia joins the project.
 

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According to the President’s statements, we have invited Saudi Arabia to participate in the KAAN project.

I believe that with Saudi Arabia’s participation, the project would progress much faster and the risks would be reduced to a minimum. I hope Saudi Arabia joins the project.
Although Saudi Arabia joining the project would be a net positive, at least on the financial side, there is nothing that can truly fasten the project. If money alone solved everything, any rich country would already possess top notch technologies today.

Saudi Arabia’s participation would likely affect a different aspect instead. It may improve the chances of securing F110 engines for Block 10 and Block 20 aircraft, allowing Turkey to start building a KAAN fleet without waiting for the domestic engine to mature.

Anyone claiming that TF35K will be ready around the announced timeline is being overly optimistic.

TF35K entered CDR very recently, which only means the design has been frozen. From this stage, completing development, testing, and certification realistically takes at least eight to nine years for an engine in this class. Even if everything goes well, the earliest TF35K could appear on KAAN would be around 2035.

For this reason, I do not expect KAAN with TF35K to be fully mature before 2040. Until then, the emphasis will likely remain on Block 10 and Block 20 aircraft powered by F110 engines, with the domestic engine introduced gradually once it reaches full maturity.
 

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I would say it is more than likely to have Saudi Arabia on board with Kaan. We should sign up more and more potential users so that they don't get distracted by the competition.
 

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